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jetrash
Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: the united steaks
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| komerican wrote: |
But when the US goes don't tell South Koreans that we can't have nukes. We'll get nukes as will the Japanese. South Korea would have had nukes on subs by now if it hadn't been for US intervention. |
HAHAHA
get with the new programme ,komerican.
after america has stopped being interested in this hellhole,holding your hand,and telling you what to do...
china wont let you have nukes EITHER.
SPORKLE WILL BE UNDER CHINESE PROTECTION AFTER US WITHDRAWL
you spent so long aching under american rule,that you cant look ahead to chinese rule.
PLEASE LOOK AT CHINAS OTHER 2 NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES,TIBET AND TAIWAN ,WHO DONT HAVE AMERICAN TROOPS HAHAHAHAHA |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| komerican wrote: |
I hope the US leaves Korea because in any war the boys dying will be Korean anyway. |
The Koreans are so screwed if the Yankees up and leave 
Face it, the Americans (through all their faults) are the best friends the Korean people had ever had. Period!
In no other time in Korean history have the Korean people (at least South Koreans) have had as much prosperiety, freedom, and to a certain extent safety. |
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Chicoloco
Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Location: In the ring.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| From where did Korea purchase this "advanced" destroyer? |
From Admiral Yi Sun Shin |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The destroyers were built in Europe by BAe Systems and Thales. The are not AEGIS, their combat management system is derived from the Royal Navy's SSCS. I was invovled in the development of this system in my former life. |
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Vince
Joined: 05 May 2003
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Still, South Korea could use some back up. They would feel a little nervous about facing North Korea on their own. They prefer some kind of foreign buffer. If so, they need to pay more. |
I agree, but that's not the extent of it. Why, after 50 years, should the lives of US military personnel continue to be endangered by this situation? Besides, NK would have a lot less to complain about (at least according to its rhetoric) if the US leaves South Korea. Maybe they'd open up to a bit of trade with SK, and a taste of that capitalist money would take the edge off of NK. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| WoBW wrote: |
| The destroyers were built in Europe by BAe Systems and Thales. The are not AEGIS, their combat management system is derived from the Royal Navy's SSCS. I was invovled in the development of this system in my former life. |
That would be very incorrect. It is Aegis. It was built locally. See articles below.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840792/posts
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South Korea launches its first AEGIS destroyer, Sejong the Great, DDG-991
AEGIS VESSELS OF THE WORLD ^ | Jeff Head
Posted on Monday, May 28, 2007 14:19:05 by Jeff Head
On Friday, May 25th, 2007, the Republic of South Korea reached a major milestone in its military and defense progress.
The first Korean Destroyer Experimental III vessel (KDX-3) was launched on that date. The new vessel, named the Sejong the Great, DDG 991, is a full AEGIS capable vessel employing the same AN/SPY-1D system as the US Navy Areligh Burke class destroyers, and also utilizing the same AN/SQQ-89 submarine warfare suite.
But the vessels are also much more heavily armed than their American counterparts, with an 80 cell VLS grouping forward dedicated to SM-2 missiles, and a 48 cell VLS grouping aft carrying 32 land attack cruise missiles and 16 ASROC anti-submarine missiles. In addition, the vessel carries 16 anti-shipping missiles very similar to harpoon missiles, a rolling air frame (RAM) missile launcher with 21 short range anti-missile and anti-air missiles, and a 30mm Goalkeeper CIWS for more close in protection. Finally, the vessel carries 32 light weight topredoes and carries two anti-submarine helicopters in its hangars.
These vessels, when upgraded with TBM capabilities will allow the South Korean government to protect their interests and people against attack by rogue states, and help maitain the balance of power in the Western Pacific. The South Koreans have firm plans to build two more of these vessels, with a potential for three more, which would total six vessels in all. |
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/rok/2007/rok-070525-rianovosti01.htm
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South Korea launches first advanced Aegis destroyer
RIA Novosti
25/05/2007 16:22 TOKYO, May 25 (RIA Novosti) - South Korea launched its first $1-billion Aegis destroyer Friday, becoming the fifth country to deploy the ultra-modern warship, the Yonhap news agency said.
The 7,600-ton ship, built locally by Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. and carrying 16 ship-to-ship missiles, 128 ship-to-air missiles, 32 ship-to-surface cruise missiles, torpedoes and close-in weapons systems, is one of the world's heaviest and best-armed in its class. It is equipped with the Aegis, the highly sophisticated weapons control system built by Lockheed Martin.
Before South Korea, only the United States, Japan, Spain and Norway operated warships similar to the new South Korean ship, christened the King Sejong. The Spanish and Norwegian Aegis destroyers are of much smaller displacement.
King Sejong's formidable combination of offensive and defensive weapons suggests that she will be the mainstay of future South Korean naval power, counterbalancing potential threats from North Korea and China.
Seoul expects to commission two other advanced destroyers in 2010 and 2012 as part of the planned transfer to a Strategic Mobile Fleet concept instead of the current system, under which the Navy remains operationally divided between three seas. |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, I was thinking of the Chungmugong Yi Sun-sin class destroyers commissioned between 2003 and 2007. Not the latest type.
My bad. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| South Korea would have had nukes on subs by now if it hadn't been for US intervention. |
Actually if it weren't for US intervention, Korea would still be under the Japanese. Either that or Kim Jong Il. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| komerican wrote: |
| South Korea would have had nukes on subs by now if it hadn't been for US intervention. |
Actually if it weren't for US intervention, Korea would still be under the Japanese. Either that or Kim Jong Il. |
Stop posting truths and respect Korean culture-you just made him lose face.
I hope the American troops pull out once I am out of here-the economy will dwindle and Sparkling will be in the Chinese sphere-and that will be worse than an actual war tihe NK. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Whether or not the U.S pull out, Korea will still be an important place to them--a eye in China's backyard so as to speak. Pulling out the troops does not necessarily indicate a lack of interest in Korea as a strategic location. This could be for any number of reasons including that they think Korea is strong enough now to defend itself. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| For a long time the South Korean school system has been teaching history from a pro-Chinese/North Korean point of view. Let me clarify this. Students have been taught that Korea kicked the Japanese out, the Americans started the Korean War, the Americans divided the pennisula, and that the Americans have done nothing but hinder South Korea and North Korea relations throughout recent history. It seems that some time around the year 2000 the changes in history curriculm occured. I know I have no links only the books from the 90s and the books post 2000 to go on. Strangely enough DJ took office around this time and Roh followed him. Maybe this shift in education has something to do with "the blow sunshine up the arse of the public" policy. |
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the foystein
Joined: 23 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the USA will continue to have a large military investment in the ROK. It is in the best interests of both countries. |
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komerican
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| komerican wrote: |
But when the US goes don't tell South Koreans that we can't have nukes. We'll get nukes as will the Japanese. South Korea would have had nukes on subs by now if it hadn't been for US intervention. |
HAHAHA
get with the new programme ,komerican.
after america has stopped being interested in this hellhole,holding your hand,and telling you what to do...
china wont let you have nukes EITHER.
SPORKLE WILL BE UNDER CHINESE PROTECTION AFTER US WITHDRAWL
you spent so long aching under american rule,that you cant look ahead to chinese rule.
PLEASE LOOK AT CHINAS OTHER 2 NEIGHBOURING COUNTRIES,TIBET AND TAIWAN ,WHO DONT HAVE AMERICAN TROOPS HAHAHAHAHA |
If the US leaves it will be a negotiated withdrawal. If the US abandoned SK to face china alone, that would have serious consequences for America's other alliances, namely Japan and Europe.
I hesitate to reference anything so bourgeois as a book with you but as Samuel Huntington pointed out in his book CC, the US at some point might have to switch to a pro-proliferation strategy. SK already has the know-how to produce nukes and we could make them in short order, as could Japan. |
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komerican
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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I was surprised to read this. He has more integrity than you'll ever see from most English teachers.
�I think the United States really blew it,� Concilus said. �The United States said they were sorry, but they didn�t show the kind of remorse and regret that I think would be expected in either Japanese or Korean culture
�The Americans kind of blithely thought a court-martial would solve the problem, but of course, it didn�t. The Koreans saw that as a kangaroo court, where nobody was punished,� he said. |
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