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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: www.birchwoodbeauties.com |
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Anyone's grandpa ever have one of these?
www.birchwoodbeauties.com
The inventory button is on the top right. There are a few Spartans up for grabs. The interiors are birch and oak--click on a pic to see the insides.
I bought a 1957 Spartan Royal Manor a couple of months ago off Craigslist. Stinky good deal @ 2 grand. It had been sitting in an AZ RV park for the last 15 years. Not trashed, just dirty and in need of having the wood refinished. The aluminium skin is in great shape. There's 33' of wood to refinish though. Am doing a "reno-lite", but some people spend up to 50 g's refurbishing these trailers, or doing custom jobs on the insides. The aluminium polishes up to a nice shine.
A few months ago I had no idea these existed until I started looking for an RV/travel trailer. I came to the conclusion that the newer stuff is expensive, poorly built, and often looks like a bordello madam decorated it. Then I stumbled onto a Spartan and the strange world of restoring vintage trailers.
Well these days my neck and shoulders are all jacked up from sanding the ceilings, and my hands/arms are buzzed out from holding a sander all day. What a *%!?@!#!! job!!! Almost finished though---once the varnish and new linoleum floor goes down it's going to look mint.
It's going to function as an insta-cottage on some land this summer.
I've decided I'm on the lookout for a Spartan Executive Mansion--8 x 50 ft....one of the largest they ever built...hard to find, but what a pad! |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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That is a great idea! What an amazing deal! I'm very jealous. I hope to do the same thing one day. I heard there are clubs that meet up all across N.America with those trailers, so to get one for that price sounds really incredible. Post some pics when you are done! |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
That is a great idea! What an amazing deal! I'm very jealous. I hope to do the same thing one day. I heard there are clubs that meet up all across N.America with those trailers, so to get one for that price sounds really incredible. Post some pics when you are done! |
Seriously. Drop some before and after photos. That sounds like a great project and investment. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:06 am Post subject: |
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Where are the wings and the propeller?^^ |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:14 am Post subject: |
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When I was a kid, and my parents decided it would be a good idea to drive from Ontario to Newfoundland, apparently one of the clubs that blaseblasphemer mentioned had the same idea, because we must've passed fifty or sixty of them over a couple of days Always thought they were great looking |
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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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Once I saw ours on Craigslist I knew we had to have it. Great price, not trashed, and freshly posted--lucky. They don't last long on the market when they're in reasonably good shape and cheap. You could sell off just the aluminium for 2 g's. But hub was lollygagging in bed and I just knew he was going to say "we'll talk about it later" and it would have been sold. So I made the decision, called the sellers, and got it for 2 g's (they'd wanted $2,500) Then I informed hub of my purchase All he said was "ya, I figured you'd go and do something like this." He was a little horrified. Especially when I said it was in AZ and needed to be picked up and towed home. Turns out ithe RV park was 20 minutes from his uncle's house--how perfect was that!! Good egg that he is, he went and got it.
He blew the transmission on his truck moving it from the RV park to his uncle's house--not because of the trailer (6000 lbs)--evidently the trani was already *beeped*--a question of "when" rather than "if". 4 days and $2,600 later....hub wasn't fun to talk to for those few days. It was like his truck had betrayed him. I think it's a North Dakotan thing.
If I'd have known about these trailers while I was in Korea I would have already started looking for that Executive Mansion!!! Some lucky person snagged this one for $500, beautiful condition!!! This one's a 1957 model with the "aircraft trim" styling the same as ours:
http://www.spartantrailer.com/trailer%20ads/Ads2005/sale88.html
This Executive Mansion is up for grabs in AZ....for $20,000. A monster. I want one--not for 20 g's though
Sometimes you get lucky and peple just want them off the property for a minimum of $. Or free.."just take it away please"...even if they're trashed it's relatively easy to rebuild the interior--most can people can run a saw and a screwdriver eh.
This guy documented his restoration: http://jayperkins.com/spartan/
2 little old ladies lived in our Sparty at the RV park in AZ for the last 15 years. They didn't believe in curtain rods, no, pushpins instead Some of the birch panels next to the windows, and oak trim in other places looked like Barbie took a Barbie-sized shotgun to them. Pinholes everywhere.
Wood filler and a brown felt pen do a pretty good job of covering up those. Some panels I just replaced--birch ply readily vailable at Home Depot but the quality of the birch veneer is much poorer than what originally was made 50 years ago. I have to put the new panels in the sun first so they'll darken up a bit and match the existing stuff.
I'm taking my time fixing things because I'm gobsmacked this trailer is in such good shape after 51 years. So I'd like it to last another 50. Turqouise melamine counters, bathroom, aluminium trim--it's hilariously retro. Because of the way they're built Spartans are *really* easy to work on as well--everything screws together.
The Getty/Spartan Aircraft Company started making these after WW2 when planes were no longer needed. The aluminium skin is aircraft-grade (not rinky-dink). They were perfectly set up to turn these out. The two front windows (curved) are plexiglass http://www.tulsaworld.com/common/printerfriendlystory.aspx?articleID=071103_5_E1_hCraf53676
The more popular models are the smaller ones (25 to 30' long) which people pour a pile of $ into refurbishing or doing custom interiors, then they pull them around to shows and campgrounds. I think the larger models are perfect for putting on some land.
This is Royal Manor like ours that's been restored, except it's a '58--pretty much the same:
This is ours whilst still sitting in AZ--the hood over the windows was an after-market add-on:
The kitchen before we got to work:
I have more pics of everything torn down...I've made a fine mess ....but this requires some organization. I'll post those tonight if my fingers aren't too crippled; I still have some ceiling to do today.
This is the trailer's ultimate destination this summer: 40 acres of Rocky Mountains @ 10,800ft... scenic splendor befitting a Sparty:
Actually, we just don't have the time to build a shack And I like the aspect of having something much more substantial between us and the wildlife than a pop-up. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:17 am Post subject: |
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'Ya-ta boy" expressed concern that with the world economy apparently headed depression ala the 1930s he might end up having to live in a cardboard box when he retires soon.
Might be a good time - especially for freespending oldtimers like me - to at least invest in a trailer. |
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cangel

Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Tenement on wheels... Awesome. Don't make 'em like these anymore... |
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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Rteacher wrote: |
'Ya-ta boy" expressed concern that with the world economy apparently headed depression ala the 1930s he might end up having to live in a cardboard box when he retires soon.
Might be a good time - especially for freespending oldtimers like me - to at least invest in a trailer. |
This thread should really be called the Spartan Renovation Odyssey.
If you're going to get one on the cheap like we did be prepared to walk out of it a sore, varnish-caked crust of humanity each night if you want it to become a nice, clean place to live. But IMHO the wood is so beautiful there's just no other way to do it. The first week is brutal while you're getting used to hanging onto that orbital all day. Hot showers never felt so good.
I've been looking at some of our pics from when we first got it and I started re-finishing the wood, to find some good pics to post that may show what all of this entails. Wow!--a trip down memory lane and we've only had it two months. Doing renos on one of these things is like the "tunnel" thing....no light for quite a while, *beep* dust everywhere. You have to bag and label everything or you'll go crazy. The worst part is I have to play musical parts with so much stuff because I don't have the space to put it anywhere out of the way because the garage is already a packed labyrinth.
Have I mentioned that at night I dream about giant vats of paint stripper to dip the whole trailer into? It emerges CLEAN and ready to varnish!!!
Tonight the kitchen melamine died
I'd forgotten about this but the 3/4 ply under the faucets in the kitchen was rotted. Hub pointed that out. Ok, so I forgot. Tore up the kitchen counter and discovered the melamine under the faucets was shot too (has wood backing). That means the whole counter top on that side is shot. So I'll be roaming the internet to find out where to get fresh melamine. Home Depot forget it. I was hoping to re-use all the old stuff--it's wonderfully tacky turquoise and other than the faucet silliness, in good shape everywhere else. I did save the aluminium trim though.
I have to say if you want to do something like this you should have patience for details, and be prepared to go over every square inch of the trailer--mouse poo, squirrel nests, 50 years of accumulated human-produced muck. Depends how trashed it is when you become the owner. Did I say 1 grand in renos? Make it 2 grand--and that's for reasonably un-trashed and you do all the work.
Still cheap though.
Mr Canuckistan has done all the plumbing that's been needed--luckily not that much. He tells me there's still stuff in the toilet that looks like.....I think he's just exaggerating...I haven't looked though. It's in our garage. I'll save that job for out on the lawn with the hose I guess. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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I forgot to mention 1 great aspect of dropping a travel trailer on some land--you get around having to apply for a building permit because a trailer/RV is not a permanent structure (with a foundation).
The only thing that can screw that up is a "homeowners association" that has rules about what you can and can't put on the land.
If you want vacant land and to be free to do what you want with it make sure there's none of that silliness before you buy. |
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Ukon
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:00 am Post subject: |
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Holy cow, I couldn't imagine trying to drive that executive mansion out on the road. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Ukon wrote: |
Holy cow, I couldn't imagine trying to drive that executive mansion out on the road. |
No kidding. These days the rules and regs for highway towing are a lot tougher than in '57. In some states you need to get special permits to tow something over 45', and I think in others you need to flatbed a monster like the Executive Mansion (50') the way you move a mobile home.
I have only 1 more day of being covered in sanding muck left--have to finish grinding the old (Formica) glue off the bathroom walls, do some wiring, do a huge mop down of the entire trailer for every last speck of dust, then I begin to varnish the walls.
Light at the end of the tunnel! |
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