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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: Here comes the Korean cops! Now on patrol... |
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The cops are coming! Will they be competent or Keystone/LAPD-ish?
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2888947
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Police leave desk jobs and hit the streets in new crime fight
April 22, 2008
Out from behind the desks and into the field.
That�s the plan for thousands of police officers across the country as part of a national reform plan announced yesterday in response to growing concerns about the country�s police force due to high-profile blunders.
Shifting about 10 percent of the desk officers will add nearly 2,000 police to the field, the National Police Agency said yesterday, claiming it will make the public safer.
Currently, about 70,000 police officers work in the field. Their duties include patrolling, investigating and controlling traffic. That number will grow before the end of this year, said Superintendent Sohn Je-han, of the police reform team.
�In February, we reduced the number of desk duty cops by 10 percent and assigned 1,955 officers to field duties,� Sohn said. �The next step will be analyzing each precincts� manpower and reassign another 2,214 to field duties before the end of this year.�
According to the release, another 210 intelligence officers will be reassigned to investigation units. About 150 of those officers had been working at university districts in Seoul to track down anti-state activities. The rest were working in rural villages nationwide.
Gyeonggi will get the most new field officers. Several brutal crimes against children in the province have made headlines this year. Two schoolgirls were found murdered. In another case, police downplayed an incident in which the brutal assault of a young girl in an elevator was captured on a closed-circuit camera. Even President Lee Myung-bak joined in on the criticism of the police in that case.
Gyeonggi will receive 1,757 officers by the end of this year, the release said.
In addition, the National Police Agency said it will reduce the paperwork its detectives have to file, giving the job to desk duty officers to try to increase efficiency. Police officers who aren�t doing their job properly will be either fired or punished, the agency said, a process that will begin even at the police academy.
Police officers who ignore or downplay crime reports will also be severely punished, possibly with a criminal charge for negligence. An electronic database will be created to manage all of reports and a whistleblower system will be created to encourage officers to report whether their supervisors are trying to influence how they solve certain cases.
The police agency said more cops will be assigned to work from 8 p.m. to 3 a.m., the time when most crimes are committed. To respond to crimes more quickly, up to 40 police departments in rural villages will be split up into 100 to 150 bureaus nationwide.
By Ser Myo-ja Staff Writer [email protected] |
It's a pretty good start, but it's too late for Naumdaemoon gate, the dead girls of Gyeonggi, and all the rest whom the police didn't protect.
" from 8 p.m. to 3 a.m., the time when most crimes are committed."
Hmm....gee, what is possible open during those hours? I wonder... |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: |
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The dead girls thing would have happened in any country. Awful, but true.
The Namdemun Gate thing shouldn't have happened. It's pretty amazing that there weren't guards around Korea's #1 national treasure. So amazing that nobody noticed. The bad thing about that is it wasn't the first time in the past few years that someone burned down a national treasure. They should have learned to put at least one of the thousands of military police on the grounds of that gate. It's not like they don't have busloads sitting around with nothing to do.
The elevator guy who tried to steal the child.... THAT one was ridiculous. The police were incredibly negligent. |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: |
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| Every scumhole apartment has an old adjosshi watching it, but they couldn't find one for a national treasure? It's a shame. |
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Chris Kwon
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Seems like they are always trying to downplay stuff...... why? |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: |
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The dead girls thing would have happened in any country. Awful, but true.
The Namdemun Gate thing shouldn't have happened. It's pretty amazing that there weren't guards around Korea's #1 national treasure. So amazing that nobody noticed. The bad thing about that is it wasn't the first time in the past few years that someone burned down a national treasure. They should have learned to put at least one of the thousands of military police on the grounds of that gate. It's not like they don't have busloads sitting around with nothing to do.
The elevator guy who tried to steal the child.... THAT one was ridiculous. The police were incredibly negligent. |
The dead girls thing is a lot deeper than 2 dead girls. The guy had kidnapped and killed more people before the 2 dead girls (I believe he was "credited" with more than 15 other rape murders). He was also "credited" with killing of one lady (I believe she was a singing assistant) after the dead girls. The girls disappearance was not investigated until something like 9 days after it was reported (I forget the exact number of days). When a car rental dealership reported blood in one of their rental cars it took nearly a month for the cops to investigate the blood. Then they linked it to the dead girls and caught the guy. However, if they had done their job better the one lady would not have been killed.
The buring gate thing is worse than that too. They had caught the arsonist burning down another old building before and couldn't be bothered to charge him.
This is a common occurance here. I don't know if you have called the cops here or dealt with them. I have several times and each time they tried their best to get away from the problem without doing anything or pressing any charges. In fact in most cases it is up to the victim to press civil charges. Very rarely are criminal charges filed by police here.
Hopefully these changes will make the police more accountable. It is disgraceful that when they are called to an incident that they do their best to do nothing to punish a guilty party. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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According to the article, the police are trying to cut back on the 'lax' attitude towards filing police reports and their habitual downplaying of charges.
"Oh, he was just drunk"- that argument, right?
Will the police stick to their guns on this issue? Do they even have guns? I don't think I've even seen them with guns. Maybe a few in Seoul and a few in Daejeon... |
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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Stayed in Boseong and slept in the 6 or 7-storey hotel just up the street from the bus station, on the way in the door on the left was a massive poster of 21 or 22 very unhappy-looking Koreans. I found out that was a wanted list of major criminals (murderers, rapists, hagwon directors) believed to be hiding out in Jeollanamdo in the countryside.
I hope that every cop walking the street will be carrying a copy of that poster. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Didn't LMB spend a great deal of time in Japan?
Perhaps he's used to more efficiency? |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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| Eedoryeong wrote: |
Stayed in Boseong and slept in the 6 or 7-storey hotel just up the street from the bus station, on the way in the door on the left was a massive poster of 21 or 22 very unhappy-looking Koreans. I found out that was a wanted list of major criminals (murderers, rapists, hagwon directors) believed to be hiding out in Jeollanamdo in the countryside.
I hope that every cop walking the street will be carrying a copy of that poster. |
Hmm, I'd like to learn a little more about that. It also could have been a list of missing persons. They're always up in bus stations, near hotels, and pretty much everywhere. Very depressing.
They did catch a serial killer in Boseong last year. He was 70 years old.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710020016.html
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2886487
Seems like the countryside would be the hardest place to hideout. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Saw them walking in twos today. What a useless thing. Get in a car, drive around, pull over people running red lights, speeding, make yourselves known. walking around won't amount to a hill of beans. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Police leave desk jobs and hit the streets in new crime fight
April 22, 2008
Out from behind the desks and into the field.
That�s the plan for thousands of police officers across the country as part of a national reform plan announced yesterday in response to growing concerns about the country�s police force due to high-profile blunders.
Shifting about 10 percent of the desk officers will add nearly 2,000 police to the field, the National Police Agency said yesterday, claiming it will make the public safer.
Currently, about 70,000 police officers work in the field. Their duties include patrolling, investigating and controlling traffic. That number will grow before the end of this year, said Superintendent Sohn Je-han, of the police reform team.
�In February, we reduced the number of desk duty cops by 10 percent and assigned 1,955 officers to field duties,� Sohn said. �The next step will be analyzing each precincts� manpower and reassign another 2,214 to field duties before the end of this year.�
According to the release, another 210 intelligence officers will be reassigned to investigation units. About 150 of those officers had been working at university districts in Seoul to track down anti-state activities. The rest were working in rural villages nationwide.
Gyeonggi will get the most new field officers. Several brutal crimes against children in the province have made headlines this year. Two schoolgirls were found murdered. In another case, police downplayed an incident in which the brutal assault of a young girl in an elevator was captured on a closed-circuit camera. Even President Lee Myung-bak joined in on the criticism of the police in that case.
Gyeonggi will receive 1,757 officers by the end of this year, the release said.
In addition, the National Police Agency said it will reduce the paperwork its detectives have to file, giving the job to desk duty officers to try to increase efficiency. Police officers who aren�t doing their job properly will be either fired or punished, the agency said, a process that will begin even at the police academy.
Police officers who ignore or downplay crime reports will also be severely punished, possibly with a criminal charge for negligence. An electronic database will be created to manage all of reports and a whistleblower system will be created to encourage officers to report whether their supervisors are trying to influence how they solve certain cases.
The police agency said more cops will be assigned to work from 8 p.m. to 3 a.m., the time when most crimes are committed. To respond to crimes more quickly, up to 40 police departments in rural villages will be split up into 100 to 150 bureaus nationwide.
By Ser Myo-ja Staff Writer [email protected] |
An extra 2,000 cops on the streets in a country of over 47,000,000 people is goona make Sweet F all difference. And for cracking down on the ones who don't do their jobs, whcih is most of them, they won't do sh*t unless they are caught publically. If they can hide it they will, as always. |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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I found out that was a wanted list of major criminals (murderers, rapists, hagwon directors)
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 which is the worst of the three? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| xtchr wrote: |
| Eedoryeong wrote: |
I found out that was a wanted list of major criminals (murderers, rapists, hagwon directors)
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which is the worst of the three? |
Well, in some instances, the latter two are one and the same. |
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ryouga013
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
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| Eedoryeong wrote: |
I found out that was a wanted list of major criminals (murderers, rapists, hagwon directors)
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which is the worst of the three? |
Well, in some instances, the latter two are one and the same. |
For that matter, if some of us had a little less control, 1 and 3 would be the same almost....
Or if you simply count what they are doing to the children in the long run... |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ryouga013 wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| xtchr wrote: |
| Eedoryeong wrote: |
I found out that was a wanted list of major criminals (murderers, rapists, hagwon directors)
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which is the worst of the three? |
Well, in some instances, the latter two are one and the same. |
For that matter, if some of us had a little less control, 1 and 3 would be the same almost.... |
No kidding. If I ever see in the news, "Foreign English teacher kills hagweon boss," my first reaction will not be shock. It will be, "What took so long?" Of course, I'm not advocating someone murder a hagweon boss. I'm just saying that I wouldn't be surprised if it ever happens given the stunts so many bosses pull. |
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