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traxxe

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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject: Randomly found some Korean's anti-Japanese site... |
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http://aog.2y.net/korea/art2/
Check out the directory. Full of what looks to be anti-Japanese kid's drawings.
Probably just some uber nerd who doesn't actually understand history.
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traxxe

Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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MY bad... looks white. Interesting take on the pictures though  |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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You're such a troll traxxe
You know as good as I do that these pictures are from at least 3-4 years ago.
And it wasn't some uber nerd who did them, but students from a middle school with the consent of their teachers, administration, and municiple government (hence their location in a subway). |
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jkelly80

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Location: you boys like mexico?
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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That's funny, I don't care who you are. |
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Passions

Joined: 31 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Korea Sparkling! |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, so what happened to North Korea in that last one? How well educated  |
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traxxe

Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Seriously? There is no way someone let a class do this and then put all their pictures up? That's wrong on so many levels.
If you click on the link you will see there are dozens or so of these pictures. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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Unit 731 was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937�1945) and World War II. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Japanese personnel.
Activities
A special project code-named Maruta used human beings for experiments. Test subjects were gathered from the surrounding population and were sometimes referred to euphemistically as "logs" (丸太, maruta?).[6] This term originated as a 'joke' on the part of the staff due to the fact that the official cover story for the facility given to the local authorities was that it was a lumber mill.[7]The test subjects were selected to give a wide cross section of the population, and included common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the secret police for alleged "suspicious activities" and included infants, the elderly, and pregnant women.
Vivisection
* Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia. [8][6]
* Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was felt that the decomposition process would affect the results.[9][6] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.[10]
* Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed.[11]
* Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss.[6]
* Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body.[6]
* Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
* Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines.[6]
* Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.[12][8][6]
In 2007, Doctor Ken Yuasa testified to the Japan Times that "I was afraid during my first vivisection, but the second time around, it was much easier. By the third time, I was willing to do it." He believes at least 1,000 persons, including surgeons, were involved in vivisections over mainland China. [13]
Weapons testing
* Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions.[6]
* Flame throwers were tested on humans.[6]
* Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons and explosive bombs.[6]
[edit] Germ warfare attacks
* Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. [6]
* To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied.
* Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare.
* Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 200,000 Chinese civilians.[6]
* Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians. [14]
* Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were actively involved not only in research and development, but also in experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics. [15]
Other experiments
Prisoners were subjected to other experiments such as:
* being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death.[6]
* having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism.[6]
* having horse urine injected into their kidneys.[6]
* being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death.
* being placed into high-pressure chambers until death.
* being exposed to extreme temperatures and developed frostbite to determine how long humans could survive with such an affliction, and to determine the effects of rotting and gangrene on human flesh.[6]
* having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival.
* being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead.
* having animal blood injected and the effects studied.
* being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation.
* having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers.
* being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline.
Biological warfare
Japanese scientists performed tests on prisoners with plague, cholera, smallpox, botulism and other diseases.[16] This research led to the development of the defoliation bacilli bomb and the flea bomb used to spread the bubonic plague.[17] Some of these bombs were designed with ceramic (porcelain) shells, an idea proposed by Ishii in 1938. These bombs enabled Japanese soldiers to launch biological attacks, infecting agriculture, reservoirs, wells, and other areas with anthrax, plague-carrier fleas, typhoid, dysentery, cholera, and other deadly pathogens. In addition, infected food supplies and clothing were dropped by airplane into areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces. |
But hey, the Japanese made Nintendo and Tomogachi pets so there isn't any reason why anyone should hate them right?
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:36 am Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
You're such a troll traxxe
You know as good as I do that these pictures are from at least 3-4 years ago.
And it wasn't some uber nerd who did them, but students from a middle school with the consent of their teachers, administration, and municiple government (hence their location in a subway). |
It is old, but not old enough that it doesn't still make me think how anyone could think that was a good idea... |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
But hey, the Japanese made Nintendo and Tomogachi pets so there isn't any reason why anyone should hate them right? |
I understand you arguments, but at the same time aren;t you ducking the original issue?
Now in no way am I comparing the two. But are you suggesting that because the Japanese did so many horrible things, that these students, teachers, administration, bureaucrats, politicians have the right to print some pretty bad (altough creative) propoganda towards another nation?
And what are you teaching the younger generation but more hate and ill will.
Perhaps the Japanese have not moved on from their dipicible past (yakuzuma Shrine, certain history textbooks), but that shouldn't prevent the Koreans from doing so.
Why not take the high ground? And act like a mature people?
Those subway cartoons were a form of child abuse in my opinion. And it
is very hard to defend a people (as a fireigner) when they do actions like this. |
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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Unit 731 was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937�1945) and World War II. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Japanese personnel.
Activities
A special project code-named Maruta used human beings for experiments. Test subjects were gathered from the surrounding population and were sometimes referred to euphemistically as "logs" (丸太, maruta?).[6] This term originated as a 'joke' on the part of the staff due to the fact that the official cover story for the facility given to the local authorities was that it was a lumber mill.[7]The test subjects were selected to give a wide cross section of the population, and included common criminals, captured bandits and anti-Japanese partisans, political prisoners, and also people rounded up by the secret police for alleged "suspicious activities" and included infants, the elderly, and pregnant women.
Vivisection
* Prisoners of war were subjected to vivisection without anesthesia. [8][6]
* Vivisections were performed on prisoners after infecting them with various diseases. Scientists performed invasive surgery on prisoners, removing organs to study the effects of disease on the human body. These were conducted while the patients were alive because it was felt that the decomposition process would affect the results.[9][6] The infected and vivisected prisoners included men, women, children, and infants.[10]
* Vivisections were also performed on pregnant women, sometimes impregnated by doctors, and the fetus removed.[11]
* Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss.[6]
* Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body.[6]
* Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
* Some prisoners had their stomachs surgically removed and the esophagus reattached to the intestines.[6]
* Parts of the brain, lungs, liver, etc. were removed from some prisoners.[12][8][6]
In 2007, Doctor Ken Yuasa testified to the Japan Times that "I was afraid during my first vivisection, but the second time around, it was much easier. By the third time, I was willing to do it." He believes at least 1,000 persons, including surgeons, were involved in vivisections over mainland China. [13]
Weapons testing
* Human targets were used to test grenades positioned at various distances and in different positions.[6]
* Flame throwers were tested on humans.[6]
* Humans were tied to stakes and used as targets to test germ-releasing bombs, chemical weapons and explosive bombs.[6]
[edit] Germ warfare attacks
* Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. [6]
* To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied.
* Prisoners were infested with fleas in order to acquire large quantities of disease-carrying fleas for the purposes of studying the viability of germ warfare.
* Plague fleas, infected clothing, and infected supplies encased in bombs were dropped on various targets. The resulting cholera, anthrax, and plague were estimated to have killed around 200,000 Chinese civilians.[6]
* Tularemia was tested on Chinese civilians. [14]
* Unit 731 and its affiliated units (Unit 1644, Unit 100, et cetera) were actively involved not only in research and development, but also in experimental deployment of epidemic-creating biowarfare weapons in assaults against the Chinese populace (both civilian and military) throughout World War II. Plague-infested fleas, bred in the laboratories of Unit 731 and Unit 1644, were spread by low-flying airplanes upon Chinese cities, coastal Ningbo in 1940, and Changde, Hunan Province, in 1941. This military aerial spraying killed thousands of people with bubonic plague epidemics. [15]
Other experiments
Prisoners were subjected to other experiments such as:
* being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death.[6]
* having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism.[6]
* having horse urine injected into their kidneys.[6]
* being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death.
* being placed into high-pressure chambers until death.
* being exposed to extreme temperatures and developed frostbite to determine how long humans could survive with such an affliction, and to determine the effects of rotting and gangrene on human flesh.[6]
* having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival.
* being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead.
* having animal blood injected and the effects studied.
* being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation.
* having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers.
* being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline.
Biological warfare
Japanese scientists performed tests on prisoners with plague, cholera, smallpox, botulism and other diseases.[16] This research led to the development of the defoliation bacilli bomb and the flea bomb used to spread the bubonic plague.[17] Some of these bombs were designed with ceramic (porcelain) shells, an idea proposed by Ishii in 1938. These bombs enabled Japanese soldiers to launch biological attacks, infecting agriculture, reservoirs, wells, and other areas with anthrax, plague-carrier fleas, typhoid, dysentery, cholera, and other deadly pathogens. In addition, infected food supplies and clothing were dropped by airplane into areas of China not occupied by Japanese forces. |
But hey, the Japanese made Nintendo and Tomogachi pets so there isn't any reason why anyone should hate them right? |
I believe the point is that some school board decided it was a good idea to round up all the children and prod them into getting their hate on for another race of people. Classy! Sounds like something the Nazi's or say................................the Japanese of the 1930's might have done.
YEAH FOR KOREA! |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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yawarakaijin wrote: |
I believe the point is that some school board decided it was a good idea to round up all the children and prod them into getting their hate on for another race of people. Classy! Sounds like something the Nazi's or say................................the Japanese of the 1930's might have done.
YEAH FOR KOREA! |
Yeah the irony is quite funny! |
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yawarakaijin
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:06 am Post subject: |
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I mean, I'm not trying to get a hate on for Korea by any means but if one wishes to do an indepth study of the idiocy of nationalism , Korea seems like a pretty good place to base oneself.
Note how I said a "pretty good place" not the ONLY or BEST place. Need to protect myself ya know.
I would seriously like an update on that whole fiasco. Did the prinicpal or teachers of said school take any flak? How about the station or whatever it was that decided they would like to display hand drawn images of just how much their little children hate the Japs for the world to see? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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endo wrote: |
yawarakaijin wrote: |
I believe the point is that some school board decided it was a good idea to round up all the children and prod them into getting their hate on for another race of people. Classy! Sounds like something the Nazi's or say................................the Japanese of the 1930's might have done.
YEAH FOR KOREA! |
Yeah the irony is quite funny! |
Be thankful Korea never had the ability or smarts to become a world power, because they would have been just as bad, if not worse, than the Japanese. |
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traxxe

Joined: 21 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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We all know what Japan did.
I ask you... if Korea actually were successful similar to the military campaign in Asia Japan carried out. Do you not think this culture would have led to similar attrocities?
Look at the everday racism that is apparrent in this modern democracy and think about it.
Korea would have done the same sort of barbaric acts (if not worse) if they were on the giving, and not the receiving end of it all.
This is a country that continually culturually fails to grasp the horrors of the holocaust in their modern day advertisement and willingness to make a won.
This is wrong because it has no place in a modern democratic and free society. It has no place in a public education setting.
If this was an adult expressing his own opinion then I will defend their right to do such.
Otherwise it is just sad. Funny. But sad. |
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