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| Should I warn other mothers about their choice of bottles? |
| Yes, if it were me or my kid I'd want to know. |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home
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| There are a million issues to consider when raising a child. To make a claim that these mothers are 'poisoning their babies' is dubious at best, and best left to a scientist. If someone told me that I was 'poisoning my baby' I would feel insulted, to say the least. |
Okay, so the title of the thread is a little inflammatory, I just wanted to get some responses fairly quickly.. So in your opinion, I shouldn't hand a mother using one of the bottles a post-it sized note suggesting she look up BPA on the internet?
I expect a whole range of opinions on this... and certainly, in general the demographic here isn't overly skewed by people with kids. So far, the poll results still say I should go ahead...
You manage risk. I wouldn't dream of telling a pregnant woman with a glass of wine in front of her that she was hurting her baby - I know that the vast majority of women are aware of fetal alcohol syndrome, and perhaps she's making a well-researched decision to have a celebratory glass on her anniversary, or whatever, it's not my business. But of the Korean women I've spoken with this about, not a single one has heard of the issue, and after they look it up on the internet, they're shocked. A few foreigners I know of have been shocked too.
You manage risk. If you're not aware of it, you can't manage it. That's all. |
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wanamin
Joined: 14 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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In Canada or the States, I would just go out an say it.... but we are talking about Koreans, who can be a little touchy, hence this threads exists.
Be backhanded about it. (When in Rome...)
Perhaps you could find a newspaper or scientific article about it online, (in Korean of course) pretend to read it during a nursing session (all the mothers would be amazed and interested that you are 'reading' Korean) and then casually leave the article on the seat when you leave. Every mother will know about the contents of the article within 5 min of your departure. |
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daemyann
Joined: 09 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: |
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You made your decision before you posted the thread.
All that's left now is to act on it. |
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Kimchi Cha Cha
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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| I second what OiGirl said, find the information in Korean online, print it out and anonymously post it on the wall. That way, you've done your bit. If it gets taken down, they choose to ignore it or quit using the formulas after you've posted it, that's their prerogative. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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What would be suggested to use instead, and where can it be purchased in Korea?
Glass bottles? How shatter safe are they, especially if they are boiled and then have something slightly cool placed in them?
We have plastic baby bottles and would like to switch to something else. |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Now Mostly @ Home
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| marlow wrote: |
What would be suggested to use instead, and where can it be purchased in Korea?
Glass bottles? How shatter safe are they, especially if they are boiled and then have something slightly cool placed in them?
We have plastic baby bottles and would like to switch to something else. |
Unfortunately, I don't really know the full range of products available out there in Korea. Because I knew that I'd be pumping at work, and needing a serious inventory system, I bought over twenty bottles with interchangeable caps, lids, etc. online from the US.
I agree that glass can be tricky, I would also worry about breakage. I've found some safe sippy cups at my local shijang, but they don't have the easy handles to make it suitable for my six month old - more for closer to a year in age.
If you were to order online, the gerber bottles (not fashion tints, but the basic cheap ones) are safe, as are anything with the 'born free' brand.
I also found some glass at Emart, but not cheap. One bottle was over 12,000 won. Pricey for something that might shatter first time kiddo drops it. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| simone wrote: |
If you were to order online, the gerber bottles (not fashion tints, but the basic cheap ones) are safe, as are anything with the 'born free' brand.
I also found some glass at Emart, but not cheap. One bottle was over 12,000 won. Pricey for something that might shatter first time kiddo drops it. |
OK. So not all the plastic bottles are dangerous? The ones we have don't have numbers on them, so I'd rather replace them as I can't identify their plastic. I'll look for the Born Free brand on the net. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Was the post telling the number printed on the base of the dangerous ones, removed or edited?
Sure I read it yesterday! |
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korea252
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul, Haebangchon
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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The recycle number is 7. Google it though for more detailed info.
Simone this is interesting info (wish I'd known this when little one was youger). Why don't you post it on a Korean mum's website - you'll be able to help a lot more people that way. |
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betchay
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been following news on this since I saw it on MBC Newsdesk (Korean news) more than a year ago (Feb 2007?). Aside from glass bottles, you can also use Playtex drop-ins. They are available at E-mart or online. |
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Suwoner10
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Where is the evidence to base BPA bottle ban
http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/letters/story.html?id=1dcabe54-5f95-4e1a-afb4-f1e4d805fce4
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This story has clearly shown that our elected Canadian officials neither understand science nor statistics.
The many studies of bisphenol A (BPA) by other nations, including Europe, the U.S., Japan, and by the World Health Organization have not found statistically compelling evidence to issue a ban of plastic containers with bisphenol A.
Canada did complete a risk assessment of BPA products but I cannot find any hard evidence of a scientific report of Canadian study. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| I'd second Oigirl's suggestion. It seems like the best way to get the info out to lots of moms, and it's non intrusive. |
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hugekebab
Joined: 05 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| hysterical propaganda |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| How about educating yourself and the other women about the relative harm of bottle- vs. breastfeeding? |
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simone
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| How about educating yourself and the other women about the relative harm of bottle- vs. breastfeeding? |
My baby hasn't had a drop of formula yet - even though I had to go back to FT work when she was 4 months old - we've been very lucky. I also had the help of a lactation consultant before she was born, who gave me a lot of great pointers.
I also have no supply issues, as many people do. My poor cousin is a nutritionist and she had to supplement with formula the whole time... and nobody knows better the value of the good stuff.
As far as these other ladies go, I have no idea what their decision process was to give their kids formula.... but I do know that after a week or two of not breastfeeding you dry up completely. If they wanted to take tons of domperidome and sit at a breastpump every two hours round the clock, they MIGHT be able to relactate, but for most of them, I think it's too late.
The goverment makes plenty of brochures on the importance of breastfeeding, and there's plenty in the room already. Making other mothers feel bad when there's no good end in it is pointless.
Me, I think I'm already doing my part to promote breastfeeding by whipping it out (as discreetly as possible) whereever the kid gets hungry. I've fed her in at least 30 different restaurants already. People are surprisingly supportive. |
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