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Summer camp - lose E2??

 
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daz1979



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Summer camp - lose E2?? Reply with quote

Hi,

I was just told that if I teach at a summer camp I will lose my curent E2 as I'm a hagwon worker, not a public school teacher. Is this really true??
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's job outside of your own. Why wouldn't you lose your E2 over it?
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Ut videam



Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In order to teach at a camp (i.e., a camp not operated by one's regular employer at the usual work location), an E-2 holder has to apply to Immigration for an "addition of work place." This requires the permission of the original employer.

In the case of public schools, my understanding is that they'll generally grant permission as long as the camp falls during the vacation period. It's hard to see a hagwon being willing to grant permission, however. Further, it generally states in the contract that you may not work for anyone other than your employer.

Thus, an E-2 holder employed by a hagwon could possibly face sanctions from Immigration and termination by the employer (and hence the cancellation of the visa) for working a camp without permission.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The majority of summer camps that PS will allow you to do will still be with the same Board of Education. If your school isn't offering summer camps then you can go to your Board of Education and ask to work in one, they'll be able to point you in the right direction.

If they don't ok the camp and immigration stamp your ARC and you work for one without them knowing then you're for the chop, if found out. Goodbye!

Hagwon's are a different kettle of fish. Firstly I'm not sure you actually have the holiday to do one. If you only have 10 days vacation a year, the idea of working for that is sadistic. As with PS the same rules apply if your visa sponsor doesn't ok it as well as immigration then goodbye!
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need permission from your visa sponsor, and if they are unwilling to grant permission, I'd seriously consider getting another job.
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daz1979



Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I posted my situation on here a week ago, but for some reason the mods deleted it. basically, my current hagwon owner is sick and will sell the one of his schools to a lady who doesn't want foreign teachers. So, I'm out of work although I will probably work at his other school part time (yes this school is my main employer and on my ARC)

Because my girlfriend lives with me, my boss will not cancel my visa and I will just have a bulk of free time until I can land a job with public school in August. So, I want to do a couple of camps to earn money whilst still being able to stay in Korea with my gilfriend and avoiding the long haul back to England.

So, with his permission, I might be alright then?? The last thing that I want at this moment in time is to go back to the UK and sit around doing knack all, whilst paying rent and wasting lots of money.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daz1979 wrote:

So, with his permission, I might be alright then?


I'd say you'd be very alright. Ask him, and then ask immigration, and then start looking for camps.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Re: Summer camp - lose E2?? Reply with quote

daz1979 wrote:
Hi,

I was just told that if I teach at a summer camp I will lose my curent E2 as I'm a hagwon worker, not a public school teacher. Is this really true??


sorry, link didn't work so I will paste the text of the webpage here:

Permission for Changing or Adding Workplace

* Permission that allows a foreigner in Korea to change or adds workplace within the permit of staying status.
* "Workplace" refers to the designated location in which an employed foreigner works in. However, it also includes any place that the employer is allowed to assign the foreigner to work at, so long as it is within the boundaries of the contract.

Applicable to:

* Foreigners with visa status that allows employment
Temporary Employment (C-4), Professorship (E-1), Foreign Language Instructor (E-2), Research (E-3), Technology Transfer(E-4), Professional Employment (E-5), Cultural Arts (E-6), Special Occupation (E-7), Employed Trainee (E-Cool, Non-professional employment (E-9), Vessel Crew (E-10), Working Holiday (H-1)
* Foreigners visa status that�s similar to employment.
Supervisory Intra-company Transfer (D-7), Corporate Investment(D-Cool, Trade Management (D-9)

Criteria for granting/denying

* The permission will be denied if the change or addition is different from original staying purpose as stated in the employment contract
* If the foreigner working in too many workplaces or is changing jobs too many times without any consistent pattern, he/she will be evaluated. Should the foreigner be found to have poor work conduct or is in some way against Korea�s national interest, then any future change/addition to the workplace will be restricted.
* If the added workplace should have longer work hours or higher salary than the original workplace, addition of workplace will be restricted.
* Adding more than two workplaces beside the main workplace is prohibited.

Application Period for Permission of changing or adding workplace

* Any change or addition to a foreigner�s workplace must be reviewed and granted in advance by the local Immigration

How to apply for permission for changing or adding workplace

* Principal or the assigned agent must submit the required documents (See the documents by the status) to the local Immigration Office
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