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cuckoo for kimchi



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: gotta' love Korean police Reply with quote

so...what is their job...other than sleeping in their patrol cars, smoking, and twirling their little batons (that they probably don't know what they're for.)
http://koreabeat.com/?cat=7
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So they're a couple of decades behind us in this regard. They'll catch up. Koreans aren't exactly happy about this stuff either, hence tyhe coverage n the Korean media.

Personally, I'll take the relaxed Korean police on the streets here over aggressive stormtroopers at home any day of the week.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police in Canada and America are too heavy handed and hurt and kill too many people.

On the other hand, cops here don't seem to do much and aren't really interested in getting involved when people have problems.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
Police in Canada and America are too heavy handed and hurt and kill too many people.


Choose your poison. Either the cops are killing people directly via violence and over-aggression, or they're killing people indirectly via inaction and apathy. The moral of the story is, cops suck no matter where you are.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
Personally, I'll take the relaxed Korean police on the streets here over aggressive stormtroopers at home any day of the week.


What country do you come from where there are "agressive stormtroopers [sic]"?
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
samd wrote:
Personally, I'll take the relaxed Korean police on the streets here over aggressive stormtroopers at home any day of the week.


What country do you come from where there are "agressive(sic) stormtroopers [sic]"?
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air76



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw an awesome TV show where there were about 50 police officers having a Ja-Jang-Myeon eating contest on Dok-do. I really could care less either way about the effectiveness/ineffectiveness of the Korean police force. They aren't the greatest, but it beats living in a country that you have to watch out for the cops as to not have to bribe them.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police at home are more aggressive partly because they have to be - they have more aggressive and violent people to deal with on a regular basis. That being said, I don't agree with "fight fire with fire" type of policies.

What I mean is, accidentally bump into a cop at home, and you could well find yourself arrested for assaulting a police officer. They walk around like they own the streets, and will never move for you. Overtake a cop car in traffic at your peril, especially if you're of certain ethnicities. SOP in pulling someone over is to be aggressive and show them who's boss. Quick to use violence, quick to slap any charge on you they can.

Here, the police are chilled out and relaxed, they actually move for you on the streets, don't give you death stares, and when they pull you over a traffic violation, they speak to you in respectful language, in a quiet tone of voice, and often let you off, providing you're polite to them. They don't have their hands on their baton/mace/gun at all times, and are reluctant to use violence.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
samd wrote:
Personally, I'll take the relaxed Korean police on the streets here over aggressive stormtroopers at home any day of the week.


What country do you come from where there are "agressive(sic) stormtroopers [sic]"?


I agree that's funny. I've heard it referred to as Guadere's Law: Whenever you correct someone else's spelling, you will make a spelling mistake yourself.

So, what's the answer?
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samd



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
samd wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
samd wrote:
Personally, I'll take the relaxed Korean police on the streets here over aggressive stormtroopers at home any day of the week.


What country do you come from where there are "agressive(sic) stormtroopers [sic]"?


I agree that's funny. I've heard it referred to as Guadere's Law: Whenever you correct someone else's spelling, you will make a spelling mistake yourself.

So, what's the answer?


I'm a dual citizen of the United States and of Australia. I've lived in both countries. Little difference in police attitudes. If I had to choose I'd say that Aussie cops are probably worse, that is, more aggressive.
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flummuxt



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any truth to the rumor that the police in Seoul are stopping people and making them prove the stuff on their MP3 players, etc., wasn't downloaded illegally?
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smedini



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny story Smile :

I used to live in a small city on the southern coast that had no more than 25 foreigners between it and the next city. On the night of an expected typhoon my roommate and I decided to go out at 3:00 in the morning and walk around to see how windy and crazy it would be (the typhoon wasn't actually supposed to hit until 5:00-ish...we just wanted to experience the weather ahead of the real storm). Anyway, neither the storm nor the pre-storm ever came but since we were hopped up on coffee and ice cream - in order to be able to stay up so late - we decided to walk around and enjoy the extreme quiet and freedom from stares, people chatting us up, safety of crossing the street, etc. After a while we climbed up a rock wall and just sat there, yakking and we saw a car approaching from very away...it was going in and out of side streets and as it got closer we realized it was the fuzz. When they saw us the flashed their lights and drove right up to the bottom of the wall we were on, with the passenger side facing us when the finally stopped. The look on the passenger cop's face was PRICELESS and he just stared. Then we saw the finger of the driver near the passenger's lap making the international twirl sign that means "roll down the window, dumbass!", which the passenger did - without taking his eyes off us. The driver leaned over and started to say something, realized we were foreigners, dropped his jaw, slammed it shut, gave us a quick head bow with a quicker 'annyong' and sat up while his finger gave the reverse "roll up the window, dumbass". And they drove away.

My roommate and I - again, high on sugar and caffeine - laughed to kill ourselves. We could just imagine their conversation: "Why the hell didn't you tell me they were foreigners?" "I don't know! I didn't know foreigners were vampires!" "What are they doing out so late?" "Don't you know anything about foreigners, dumbass?" "Do you think they're going to tell on us for trying to talk to them?" "WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME THEY WERE FOREIGNERS!!!!" Laughing Laughing Laughing

Perhaps you had to be there (and strung out on some substance or another!), but it was hilarious and marked how, at the time, foreigners could get away with just about anything in SK.

~smedini Smile
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rsmm0224



Joined: 06 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="samd"][quote="CentralCali"][quote="samd"]
CentralCali wrote:
samd wrote:
Personally, I'll take the relaxed Korean police on the streets here over aggressive stormtroopers at home any day of the week.



I'm a dual citizen of the United States and of Australia. I've lived in both countries. Little difference in police attitudes. If I had to choose I'd say that Aussie cops are probably worse, that is, more aggressive.



First, off I am glad to see the guy was finally arrested. Slow justice is far better than no justice.

As to the cops in America being storm troopers I think it also has a lot to do with WHERE you are. In my home state of NC I have been pulled over 12 times for honest traffic violations. (well, 10. Once in VA and once in OK) Of those 12 stops I received 4 tickets, two written warnings and six verbal warnings. Of the four tickets 3 were dropped or reduced in court and the last one was not only because I read the date wrong and missed it by a week.

I have always been polite and respectful and it has paid off numerous times. America has a far higher crime rate, problems with drugs and weapons... DUI is probably about the same or maybe even worse here. I don't know the actual statistics, that's just a guess from what I've seen of drinking patterns here. Anyway, cops at home use minor traffic stops to check for more serious offenses. Every time I was stopped the cop came up defensive but as soon as he ascertained I was not a threat and only had a bit of a lead foot, it was "slow down, have a nice day."

I would love to know where you are from and what instances have led you to feel they are over aggressive. Are SOME cops racist? Certainly. Are SOME cops a bit over zealous? Again, yes. But there are also systems in place to eliminate such people from the organization.


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Chris Kwon



Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flummuxt wrote:
Any truth to the rumor that the police in Seoul are stopping people and making them prove the stuff on their MP3 players, etc., wasn't downloaded illegally?

lol you're kidding me? No one would this even be realistic...
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rsmm0224 wrote:
As to the cops in America being storm troopers I think it also has a lot to do with WHERE you are. In my home state of NC I have been pulled over 12 times for honest traffic violations. (well, 10. Once in VA and once in OK) Of those 12 stops I received 4 tickets, two written warnings and six verbal warnings. Of the four tickets 3 were dropped or reduced in court and the last one was not only because I read the date wrong and missed it by a week.


What part of NC? In the summer of 2001, I was pulled over at dusk on I-40 in Statesville by a black cop who must've been 6'10". He got out of his plain black car, propped a foot on my backbumper and shined his flashlight into my backseat. I thought for sure I was going to get a huge fine. He asked why I was driving so fast and I replied, "No excuse, sir. Just too eager to get to my destination." He asked where I was driving and I told him I was on my way to Rocky Mount and had left Nashville, TN earlier that day. He said it was a long drive and asked if I could slow down. I said, "Yes sir." He didn't give me a ticket.
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