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Applying to SMOE sans recruiter...how much to ask for?

 
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Applying to SMOE sans recruiter...how much to ask for? Reply with quote

I happened to run into a Korean proffessor in education and was talking to him....anyway, he told me he know of some schools in seoul who could use some english teachers and asked me what salary I would like?

On the SMOE website, there is payment scale, but since I'm bypassing the recruiters should I ask for a decent bit more(like around 2.4+ mill a month?) or just stick to the payment scale salary for my level?

I just have a B.S. with no experience in teaching(aside from volunteer).
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because you're not using a recruiter doesn't mean they're going to pay you more. Public school contracts are usually non-negotiable in terms of salary, though other fringe benefits are.
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climber159



Joined: 02 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely SMOE will not negotiate with you on salary or benefits. They are what they are. With a B.S. and no teaching experience that will put you at the bottom of their pay scale. If you're looking for more money your best bets for your first year teaching are: (1) to go in search of public schools that are doing their hiring independent of SMOE; or, (2) suck it up for your first year as you gain experience and the necessary contacts to upgrade in the following year. Keep in mind that the public school districts do offer after school programs that you can become involved with. Doing these can tack on another few hundred thousand won to your monthly income.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the SMOE ETIS website:

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Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education is to hire dozens of Foreign English Teachers starting teaching from March 2008.
Eligibility, benefits, duties and the other working condition of this position is the same as what�s put on this website.Initial applications should be e-mailed to one of the following;

Footprints Recruiting Incorporated
�Contact Person: Ben Glickman, Director of Employer Relations
�Suite 408, 55 Water Street, Vancouver, BC V6B-1A1, Canada
�E-mail: [email protected]
�Phone: 604-677-6559 ;Fax: 604-677-6557
�Website: http://www.footprintsrecruiting.com

Korea Connections
�Contact Person: Jay. M. Lee, Director of Employee Relations
�D-901 Tower Palace, Dogok-dong, Kangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea (135-534 )
�E-mail; [email protected]
�Phone; 82-10-2059-8607, 82-2-2058-2888;Fax: 82-2-2179-9799
�Website: http://www.koreaconnections.net
�North American Office: Cindy Bond, Director of Employee Relations
4928 43 Street, Innisfail, Alberta, Canada T4G 1M5
Phone: 1-403-227-4637, Cell :1-403-392-0944
E-mail: [email protected]

Woongjin Think OutSide
Contact Person: Lynn Kim (Kim, Eun Young), Senior Officer
Address: 535-1 Moonbal-Ri Gyoha-Eup, Paju-shi Gyeonggi-Do 413-756
Email: [email protected]
Phone: +82-31-956-7372 Fax: +82-31-956-7589
Website: http://www.thinkoutsiderecruiting.com

CDI America - Eo Recruiting Division
�Contact Person: Brian Park, Director of Recruiting
North American HQ- The Chrysler Building, 405 Lexington Avenue, 26th, New York, NY 10174
Office: 212.907.6541, FAX: 917.368.8005
�E-mail: [email protected]
�Website: http://eorecruiting.com
�Seoul Office: Sky Noh, Recruiting & Consulting Manager
4F, Gwangjung B/D, Hwayang-dong, Gwangjin-gu, Seoul, Korea
Office: 02.497.9407, Fax: 02.497.9409
Email: [email protected]

WorknPlay Incorpotated
�Contact Person: Julie Lim, Recruiting Consultant
�Address:Namkyeong Sulleung Bldg Room 202, 704-50, Yeoksam-dong,
Kangnam-gu, Seoul, Korea
�E-mail: [email protected]
�Phone: 82-2-568-7536, 82-10-8538-1596 Fax: 82-2-568-7236
�Website: http://korea.worknplayglobal.com/WNPC/main.html


Canadian Connection
�Contact Person: Shane Finnie, Director / Allison Justice, Coordinator
�Address : 192 Spadina Avenue, Suite #416 Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5T 2C2
�Phone: 1-416-203-2679
�Fax: 1-416-203-7968
�E-mail: [email protected] / [email protected]
�Website: www.canconx.com

TeachENG (DRCD Incorporated)
Contact Person: Amy Hwang (Hyunjin Hawng), Recruiting Consultant
Address: 208 Garden B/D, 14-13 Yeouido-dong, Yeongdeungpo-gu, Seoul, Korea (150-871)
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 82-2-2061-9505; Fax: 82-2-6008-9502
Website: http://www.teacheng.co.kr/


and

Quote:
Dear Future Teachers,

Please be aware that you can only pick one recruiting company. If you fail to do this, we will have to pull you from the job offer.

Thank you.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I should clarify....I got the impression he would contact some of his buddies who are in charge of schools....perhaps his friends are working for SMOE and/or maybe just principals or faculty at individual schools in seoul and elsewhere.

In the event I end up with a job offer from a seoul public school coming from the individual school itself, do I have more wiggle room? Or will they defer to the SMOE contract completely.

I know some mentioned they simply dropped off their app. at the schools themselves and were hired by them(rather than apply the traditional way SMOE, GEPIK, etc. tells you).
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMOE gives schools a budget that goes along with the foreign teacher. Not going through SMOE means no extra money to pay you with. That would be an odd situation. You might as well apply to privately funded schools (usually in the rich districts) if you want to circumvent dealing directly with SMOE. I know a lot of SMOE teachers love their schools, but hate dealing with the SMOE office. If circumventing SMOE was readily available, a lot of people would already be doing it.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
SMOE gives schools a budget that goes along with the foreign teacher. Not going through SMOE means no extra money to pay you with. That would be an odd situation. You might as well apply to privately funded schools (usually in the rich districts) if you want to circumvent dealing directly with SMOE. I know a lot of SMOE teachers love their schools, but hate dealing with the SMOE office. If circumventing SMOE was readily available, a lot of people would already be doing it.


I see, I just emailed him asking who exactly he's sending my info too.

I've already applied with Korea Connections, but since this guy offered to connect me with some schools, I figured why not.

Thanks for the info....here's hoping it's some rich private schools.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crap on a pogo stick.

He says he'll send it to both(SMOE and individual schools). I just emailed him to stop sending anything to SMOE. However, since he sounded like he would be contacting friends, I don't think it would disqualify me....I'll call him up tonight.
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