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Dev
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Wal-Mart, The High Cost of Low Prices |
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Many Wal-mart jobs aren't jobs to support a family on....like bag boys, they're for high school kids first and foremost. |
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swigs
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, wal-mart is pretty much the worst thing to happen to America(since Sam died). Along with Sam's death went Wal-marts integrity.
"Important to families stretching the budget"
If stretching the budget means buying frivolous things such as video games and dvd's instead of healthy food and quality education... then, yeah wal-mart is important to them. Wal-mart is an economic and cultural black hole, stay away. Not to lie, I go there when it is the only place open at 2am... It never sleeps...the beast.... |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| I used to work there, and I felt sorry for the assistant managers. There was the main boss, and about five assistants. The main boss made good money, but not the assistants. At the time, I believe that their starting salary was about $26,000, but they worked a minimum of 55 hours a week. And once a week, they had to open and close; that's a 16-hour day. I'd say that they probably averaged about 65 hours a week. Oh yeah, and that's salary, by the way. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| My hometown's once vibrant and bustling downtown has been virtually annihilated by Walmart (not the only offender). Now the whole place is more or less a highway-side strip mall for people passing through on their way elsewhere. |
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sargx
Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a job for uneducated people. Should we pay them 250,000$ to stock shelves? |
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swigs
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| sargx wrote: |
| It's a job for uneducated people. Should we pay them 250,000$ to stock shelves? |
No, but it is obvious that Wal-mart does not care about the local areas it deeply affects, and is purely profit driven. It was not like this when Sam was around, the company had integrity then.
Now I know all major corporations are mostly purely profit driven, but Wal-mart has taken it to the extreme. And I personally do not think it is good for the American economy to have one company be behind the curtain of Retail. Economic diversity is good for an economy, and Wal-mart is lessing that economic diversity. On another note: Wal-mart is one of the sole reasons why the blue-ray disc won over the HDDVD (once Wal-mart decided to go exclusive with BR, everyone else basically followed), so basically they have alot of power and other retailers will follow their decisions. Making it not a fair market economy.
Does it not sound creepy to buy everything at one place... Maybe its just me, but I like the idea of specialization. A diverse economy can equal a stronger one, it is what the American market system is known for.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly
So basically, I mean if you can spare a few bucks on a specialty store that might be a Mom and Pop store, that would be cool. I just bought worms from some old country dude who has had his bait shop for 20 years, and he gave me some sound life advice from out of no where...you just don't get that with wal-mart. 
I really dis-like the American strip mall culture that is taking a new extreme... |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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/yawn
Here we go again. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:37 am Post subject: |
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I went into a Wal-Mart last Tuesday (in Canada). I was shocked at how dumpy the place looked. Most of the shelves were messy with the merchandise thown all over the place. Something I would have expected on a Monday morning after the weekend. That should have been cleaned up by Tuesday. After watching the documentary which says that Wal-Mart purposely short staffs their stores, I understand now.
It also explains how every cash in check-out is perpetually busy. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| sargx wrote: |
| It's a job for uneducated people. Should we pay them 250,000$ to stock shelves? |
The salary here is not so much the issue as Wal-Mart's underhanded techniques of exploitation like forced unpaid overtime and union busting. Wal-Mart works people to death treating them like machines. At least, the "uneducated" staff at Bob's hardware get treated with respect not generally being worked to death.
I'll bet there are a lot of housewives from lower income families working themselves to death at Wal-Mart. There seems to be something ethically wrong with this. They're trying to make an honest living on minimum wage.
What I am saying is that even uneducated people deserve some kind of respect. |
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Khenan
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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| swigs wrote: |
| Not to lie, I go there when it is the only place open at 2am... It never sleeps...the beast.... |
Just do without. There are very, very few items that are actually essential at 2 am. Hell, do without a toothbrush. Leave your contacts in for one night. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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BTW, Congratulations Korea!
You kicked Wal-Mart out of your country.
Newbies in Korea, FIY, Wal-Mart had stores here until 2006, but Koreans didn't take the bait and sent Wal-Mart packing..  |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| For fans of Penn & Teller, here's their take. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, there's that, but their reasons were not the same as what you're preaching.
Walmart's crime was not being Korean. They kicked Walmart out but kept 4-5 different Walmart wannabes.
| Dev wrote: |
BTW, Congratulations Korea!
You kicked Wal-Mart out of your country.
Newbies in Korea, FIY, Wal-Mart had stores here until 2006, but Koreans didn't take the bait and sent Wal-Mart packing.. |
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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I'm old enough to remember the Sam Walton days when Wal mart meant Made in America. no good luck finding something not made in China there.
Taking a job there means only one thing -- poverty. |
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