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Quitting smoking in korea: impossible
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll never quit because I love it too much, but as an aside: is there nothing sexier than a hot girl who smokes?
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Shim Shim



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it, but I had some pressure from my girlfriend.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
smoking pisses me off. what dumbass thought up the idea of putting something on fire, putting that in your mouth and then inhaling it?

did they try other things too? were they smoking pine leaves before they found this crazy little plant called tobacco?

and 1 thing i heard in korea. koreans have lower rates of lung cancer and other smoking related illnesses. can anyone verify this claim? and if it is true, might it be because koreans smoke really weak cigarettes?


I too can't understand what makes someone PAY good money to suck on a death stick? Would you buy a gun with a nice hollow point bullet and then stick that gun in your mouth and pull the trigger?

Cigs taste awful. They smell even worse. They kill. There are other ways of dealing with stress.
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maerong



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

easy...

get yourself deported. 3 days' cold turkey in the Mokdong Hilton straightened me right out.

then live in the UK...they're 9,000 won a pack in K-money.
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maxxx_power



Joined: 17 Mar 2003
Location: BWAHAHAHAHA! I'M FREE!!!!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some stats I checked out on Korea and cancer. Just call me Real Reality.

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/20/6/16502631.pdf

Quote:
The proportion of daily smokers among adults has shown a marked decline over recent decades across
most OECD countries. In Korea, there remains however a huge gender gap in smoking rates between men
and women: 62% of men reported to smoke every day in 2000, the highest rate across all OECD countries,
compared with only 5% of women, which is the lowest rate (chart 4.2).
Lung cancer is the leading cancer killer among men in all OECD countries. Given that the most important
risk factor for lung cancer is tobacco smoking, it is not surprising to observe that the number of new cases
of lung cancer among men in Korea, and death rates related to it, are relatively high


Statistics from the CDC (sorry if the the numbers a little dated)

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/who/repkorea.htm

Quote:
Lung cancer mortality rates (age standardised) for both men and women increased between 1985-89 and 1990-91: from 30.5 to 40.1 deaths per 100,000 males and from 7.5 to 9.4 deaths per 100,000 females.


If anyone has the average death rate for lung cancer it could be compared with Korea. One site I checked said that Korea had not submitted health data (1997) and a recent lung cancer rate could not be established.

I found that the easiest way to keep from smoking is to not start in the first place.
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read that before when I was doing a research paper on smoking. but the statistics are way off. tons of women smoke, a great deal more than 5% to say the least
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quit here in Korea too over a year and a half ago. My girlfriend at the tim dumped me. I decided to change my life. I joined a health club, got into shape and used the patch to quit smoking. It doesn't work that well, but maybe it's more psychological. I used it for 2 weeks then I was home free. Really the worst part is the first 3 days when you start convincing yourself it's not too late to start again, no one will know I quit, I won't feel that guitly. I am glad I did smoke and quit. Within a few weeks of quitting I fel better than I ever did, more enery, better mood, freer. It still is scary though that after all this time I still get cravings out of the blue, especially around others who are smoking and drinking coffee...I miss that! Sad Maybe I'll go to the store now. I can smoke just one. Hmm...


Seriously, it sounds lame, but there are actually a lot of quit smoking support group websites that have a lot of useful information on smoking and why we're addicted and what's really in a cigarette. Check some of them out. They helped me.


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jacktar



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite nine months ago. Everything is cool now but I still get cravings at weird times like when I do something for the first time after having quit.

Today for example, I cooked a huge breakfast. I made bacon and cooked 3 eggs in the leftover bacon fat (maybe I should have had a smoke instead Laughing ). I used to make this after a night of drinking in university followed by copious amounts of cigarettes. But I haven't cooked this breakfast since I quit smoking. The first thing I thought about was having a smoke after I was done. This is the first craving for a smoke I've had in a couple months. I didn't submit but I'm sure I would have enjoyed it.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an addict. I have a plan to quit though, and I've set myself a very firm date, tomorrow.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote:
I have a plan to quit though, and I've set myself a very firm date, tomorrow.


Does this mean that you won't be your usual charming, friendly self?
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
I'll never quit because I love it too much, but as an aside: is there nothing sexier than a hot girl who smokes?


A hot girl whose breath, clothes, and hair don't reek.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quit, but I had to go back to the U.S. to do it. Smoking a pack a day plus Korean air pollution were doing a real number on my lungs and I knew I just had to quit. I went back to the U.S. for 2.5 months, brought one carton with me, stretched it out for 1.5 months and that was it. The first the last two weeks of the carton and the first 2 weeks without smokes were the most hellish month of my life.
If I had been teaching kids during that time I swear I would have beaten at least one child.

It was tough to come back to Korea at first, where drinking and smoking were absolutely rampant. Now, 11 months later, I only get cravings once in a blue moon and just accept it as something I can't have as though I were allergic to it.

On the downside, I put on about 15 pounds or so that I haven't managed to get rid of yet. One step at a time.

I actually enjoy the smell of cigarette smoke now, though. It brings back memories of some of the good times I had as a smoker.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dogbert wrote:
I have always wondered why smoking falls under the category of stress relief.

My layman's understanding tells me that the unhealthy assault on the body caused by smoking would cause stress, not alleviate it.


You've never smoked have you dogs Smile ? INVU
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Butterfly wrote:
dogbert wrote:
I have always wondered why smoking falls under the category of stress relief.

My layman's understanding tells me that the unhealthy assault on the body caused by smoking would cause stress, not alleviate it.


You've never smoked have you dogs Smile ? INVU


Very Happy
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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be difficult for anti-smoking efforts to get going with the Justice Minister, Kang Keum Sil, stating that with all the hard work that people do in this difficult country, it isn't right to take away their cigarettes, the only stress-reliever they have.

(Looking for a link but no luck. Read this in one of Korea's online English papers.)
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