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Why Do Newbs Think They Will Be Caught Doing Privates?
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Why Do Newbs Think They Will Be Caught Doing Privates? Reply with quote

Everyone I know in Korea teaches privates. I have been doing it for
over 8 years, and I even advertise in the apartment buildings that are
near to me. I have never, ever heard of anyone being caught, hassled
or deported for this. I have been here over 12 years now, and seriously
never even heard rumours of people being caught.

These newbs and goodie-goodies who whine and preach about doing
everything legally. Haha. 30% of the Korean economy is underground.
The powers that be in Korea: immi, police and the NIS (National
Intelligence Service) are looking for potheads, not freelancers.

Some newb recently asked how to make over 2.5M. Haha it is so easy.
Stop whining, whinging and hiding in your bed and get a tourist visa
and teach privates.

Corporate Rate: 100,000 to 200,000 for the first hour, 60,000 to 70,000
after that.

Households: 50,000 to 60,000 per hour.

To make 2.5M teaching privates: 50 hours/month or 2.5 hours per day
(based on 50K/hour)
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


That's it I'm sending your photo to immigration, expect to be deported by the end of the day.
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yeremy



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: Anywhere's there's a good bookstore.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: What you don't know Reply with quote

You do understand the economics of what you are doing, but you don't understand the social/cultural and legal context of what you are doing. Generally, people who're freelancing on tourist visas, like you, are either stopped at the airport, if they're stopped at all. Once in Korea, they aren't looked at by the authorities unless someone complains, or they cause a problem, or they advertise their activities on a site like this.

Once I took a trip to a city in Gyonggi-do to go to a martial arts school there. After I left the subway station, I met a wild-eyed, scruffy guy during the middle of the day. He warned me, "This is my turf!" like he owned the city we were in. I laughed and walked on by. I was late to my martial arts class, and he was too pathetic to worry about.

You may certainly make more money than I, but if I have a problem I don't worry about calling or going to the authorities with it because I don't work in the underground economy here. I'm not afraid of the police nor immigration when I meet them during my off hours. I also get to sleep regular hours because I am not rushing around on the subways or buses to get to another apartment or company for a freelancing session. I'm also not worried about who's following me or not. Ha, ha, imagine that.

Enjoy your freedom to exploit EFL learners while you can. Your days are probably numbered, the more so because you posted about it here.
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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Why Do Newbs Think They Will Be Caught Doing Privates? Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
Everyone I know in Korea teaches privates. I have been doing it for over 8 years, and I even advertise in the apartment buildings that are near to me. I have never, ever heard of anyone being caught, hassled
or deported for this. I have been here over 12 years now, and seriously
ever even heard rumours of people being caught.


not too long ago, there were some threads (stories) about immigration following teachers on the bus and then busting them for doing privates...deportations. Korea is a pretty poor country, not a lot of people have money to throw around like that. Of course, there is a myth that Koreans are just waiting to throw boatloads of money at college grads. Smile
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jbpatlanta



Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally know four people who were caught teaching privates. 1 of them was deported. He was on a tourist visa. The other three were on E2 visas. They were each fined. Two of them 1 million won. The other one I assume was 1 million but she never told me. They were told to finish their contracts at their schools and that "immigration" would be watching them.

I also know one single mom who was here teaching and decided to smoke up. Her friends mailed her pot from Canada. Customs opened the package and found the pot. The police followed her and three days later caught her smoking and arrested her. They told her she was going to spend 6 months in jail. The changed their minds when they found out her son was with her. They gave her ten days to leave the country.
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Chris_Dixon



Joined: 09 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbpatlanta wrote:
Her friends mailed her pot from Canada. ]


Honestly how retarded can you be?
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smedini



Joined: 02 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris_Dixon wrote:
jbpatlanta wrote:
Her friends mailed her pot from Canada. ]


Honestly how retarded can you be?


Indeed! She's very lucky that's all she got. Back in my early days in Korea I knew a fella who did much the same thing, only customs let the package with HASH in it pass to him, alerted the police and they nabbed him right in his apartment. He got himself a 'go directly to jail' card, unfortunately.

I don't know why people take a risk with drugs in another country...Midnight Express was based on a true story, people!

~smedini
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbs, or anyone else for that matter, won't be making any money doing privates.


Privates are illegal.


HTH
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ds_fan



Joined: 07 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could you really be bothered doing privates anyway, after a long day at my hellish kindy hagwon id much rather go to the gym and watch a movie- ie relax. it may be extra money, but im comfortable enough with what i earn here, given the cheap ass living costs
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba makes some good points. When I first came to Korea I was paranoid about getting caught for private lessons; I watched my back, I didn't tell my parents about them because I thought Immigration had my phone tapped, and I insisted on cash, thinking store owners would report me for using those bank cheques. I especially worried about the guards at apartment complexes and corporate office buildings.

The fact is though that most Koreans don't know they're illegal. And how would they? How much do you know about the immigration laws in your country? I know little of Canada's restrictions on foreign workers.
Those Koreans who do know they're illegal generally don't care. Chances are either they or someone they know has had private lessons with a foreign teacher. Besides that, few people have such pathetic lives that they have nothing better to do than turn people in for committing a victimless crime.

It's fine if people don't want to do privates- I don't do them anymore either because I have two part time jobs (registered legally) that keep me busy. If your leisure time is too important to give up, then that's your prerogative.
But if you want to do them, get paid in cash and don't go around telling everyone. So long as you take a few precautions there's little to worry about.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Japan, they can openly advertise for privates. Many veterans won't take a risk of getting deported by advertising. The last thing I need is to be deported, but I do think it's dumb that privates are illegal while you can do it with no problem in other Asian countries.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
In Japan, they can openly advertise for privates. Many veterans won't take a risk of getting deported by advertising. The last thing I need is to be deported, but I do think it's dumb that privates are illegal while you can do it with no problem in other Asian countries.


YEAH!!!. I mean they eat with chopsticks too and rice is a staple food...what's up with all those Asian countries being different and having different laws?


That's just so wrong...
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
In Japan, they can openly advertise for privates. Many veterans won't take a risk of getting deported by advertising. The last thing I need is to be deported, but I do think it's dumb that privates are illegal while you can do it with no problem in other Asian countries.


YEAH!!!. I mean they eat with chopsticks too and rice is a staple food...what's up with all those Asian countries being different and having different laws?


That's just so wrong...



Can you imagine the nerve, eh?Smile My point was in Japan it is more expensive, but if you can privates and advertise freely and get some, then you make up the difference in terms of the standard of living. I do wish we could do this legally.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
In Japan, they can openly advertise for privates. Many veterans won't take a risk of getting deported by advertising. The last thing I need is to be deported, but I do think it's dumb that privates are illegal while you can do it with no problem in other Asian countries.


YEAH!!!. I mean they eat with chopsticks too and rice is a staple food...what's up with all those Asian countries being different and having different laws?


That's just so wrong...



Can you imagine the nerve, eh?Smile My point was in Japan it is more expensive, but if you can privates and advertise freely and get some, then you make up the difference in terms of the standard of living. I do wish we could do this legally.


But then prices would drop and competition would rise...

Illegality is your friend....
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ukon wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Adventurer wrote:
In Japan, they can openly advertise for privates. Many veterans won't take a risk of getting deported by advertising. The last thing I need is to be deported, but I do think it's dumb that privates are illegal while you can do it with no problem in other Asian countries.


YEAH!!!. I mean they eat with chopsticks too and rice is a staple food...what's up with all those Asian countries being different and having different laws?


That's just so wrong...



Can you imagine the nerve, eh?Smile My point was in Japan it is more expensive, but if you can privates and advertise freely and get some, then you make up the difference in terms of the standard of living. I do wish we could do this legally.


But then prices would drop and competition would rise...

Illegality is your friend....


Let me say, if I have the choice between doing it legally for 35 bucks in Japan or doing it illegaly in Korea for 50 bucks I prefer the former. Since I can't really advertise without risking getting deported, I would rather do a bunch for 35 bucks an hour and do them legally, because if you can't advertise you may not have privates.


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