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[mindmetoo]

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[Omkara]

[Omkara]

[quote="mindmetoo"]
Any idea can be twisted.
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Pervert!

[mindmetoo]

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[Rteacher]

"Mindmetoo's" nasty partisanship has once again blinded him from seeing the truth - chronicled by very respected scholars (not a bunch of punk science hacks with no intellectual depth... )

... But for about ten minutes, Expelled touches on Darwinism�s historical social costs, notably the unintended contribution to Nazi racial theories. That part packs an emotional wallop. It also happens to be based on impeccable scholarship.

The Darwin-Hitler connection is no recent discovery. In her classic 1951 work The Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt wrote: �Underlying the Nazis� belief in race laws as the expression of the law of nature in man, is Darwin�s idea of man as the product of a natural development which does not necessarily stop with the present species of human being.�

The standard biographies of Hitler almost all point to the influence of Darwinism on their subject. In Hitler: A Study in Tyranny, Alan Bullock writes: �The basis of Hitler�s political beliefs was a crude Darwinism.� What Hitler found objectionable about Christianity was its rejection of Darwin�s theory: �Its teaching, he declared, was a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest.�

John Toland�s Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography says this of Hitler�s Second Book published in 1928: �An essential of Hitler�s conclusions in this book was the conviction drawn from Darwin that might makes right.�

In his biography, Hitler: 1889-1936: Hubris, Ian Kershaw explains that �crude social-Darwinism� gave Hitler �his entire political �world-view.� � Hitler, like lots of other Europeans and Americans of his day, saw Darwinism as offering a total picture of social reality. This view called �social Darwinism� is a logical extension of Darwinian evolutionary theory and was articulated by Darwin himself.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2003547/posts

CHARLIE DARWIN'S DEVILS -

[Omkara]

Boy, oh boy!

I'm going to have to drop my naziism if we cannot sever evolution from it.

I am offended!

[Underwaterbob]

Never mind the various genocides written about in the bible that were sanctioned by god.

Hitler certainly didn't invent the idea.

[Omkara]

The point is, it's okay for god. Not for Hitler. This is just not right.

This is why we need to drop Christianity and substitute it with Darwinism. How are we going to get a few Aryans together and have a nice genocide of only god gets to play?

Can I get a "Hari Hitler!", my Aryan Brothers?

Besides, isn't it only Dharma to participate in the Great Final Solution, O Arjuna?

My source is an unbroken oral chain . . . got something against giving it oral?

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[Omkara]

I really think y'all should take a second look a so-called "matter."

It is a major prejudice to think that a materialist cannot be spiritual.

How is it, that, out of the belly of matter, comes dreams?

Yes, an a-theist can be quite spiritual in a non-superstitious sense. Some of us just think that to get at the truth, god must be transcended. Then, taking a real close look at matter, no matter how mundane it may appear to the restless eye, something marvelous may be discovered.

Which was the poem about infinity in a grain of sand? Eternity in an hour?

God is a metaphor; it means different things applied by different people. Were I to use the metaphor, I'd apply it to matter, nature, or the universe itself.

[Rteacher]

Basically, we've all been Expelled from the spiritual universe because of insubordination.

But as marginal energy of the Absolute Person we are eternally subordinate individual souls with minute independence (which we have somehow misused to end up in a miserable place like this ...)

The devotional path is the only way to approach the highest (personal) feature of the Absolute, but other approaches - even material science - may also be termed spiritual if they lead to realization of impersonal, all-pervasive spirit as the basis of existence.

The varnashrama system (which degraded into the caste system when unqualified persons claimed to be brahmanas by birthright instead of qualification) was a fully cooperative system with differentiated functions that worked together like a human body.

In the Vedic model, the brahmanas (situated mainly in the mode of goodness) did intellectual work and functioned as the head of the social body; the ksatriya military and administrative types (mostly in the mode of passion) worked as the arms of society to give protection to the other classes and prevent exploitation; the vaisya mercantile, business, and farming class (in mixed modes of goodness, passion, and ignorance) functioned as the belly of society; and the often too sentimental sudras (conducted primarily by the lower modes of passion and ignorance) generally assisted the other classes.

When everyone worked cooperatively by doing their respective scripturally prescribed duties , God became pleased, and everyone in society as a whole made gradual spritual progress.

Such a spiritually progressive society was termed truly Aryan.

ISKCON as an historic attempt to transplant authentic Vedic-style culture to the western world had amazing successes - especially while its Founder-Acharya, Bhaktivedanta Swami, was physically present - but partison politics and corruption among major leaders pretty much wrecked the spirit of love and trust that previously held everyone together as a spiritual family.

Before I became independent from the organization (many years ago) I recall one beleagered temple president half-joking: "Yeah, we're based on love and trust - we love money and trust no one."