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A good place for tongue twisters for Korean students?

 
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: A good place for tongue twisters for Korean students? Reply with quote

Next semester I'm going to be using tongue twisters to help the students with problem spots in their pronunciation, but I want to put together the materials now. Can anyone tell me a good place to find tongue twisters designed to correct Korean/Asian mispronuciation? I'm looking for one that feature a lot of alternate b/v, f/p, s/sh, or l/r sounds.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you might also want the th sound.

I did this twice last year, and just made them up. Make a list of words that you want them to learn, so for th, some at the beginning, some in the middle and some at the end.

mouth, math, this, that, mother, father.

This mother likes that father
they both think math together.
what they think they say with their mouths

Drawing some sort of cross-sectional diagram of the mouth showing lips, tongue and teeth positions helps.

I also made them exagerate the positions, hoping they would end up at a reasonable position.

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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Th, good call. Although poetry isn't exactly my strong suit, you may be right that I should just make a list of words and make my own short tongue twisters instead of dredging the net for the perfect ones. But if anyone DOES know of an online motherlode, let me know.

So we have l,r,b,v,p,f,s,sh,t,th

Any other sounds I didn't think of?
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there's the classic "She sells sea shells on the sea shore"

Also "Red lorry, yellow lorry"

Make your own too "Big bad Vic visits Vietnam before banging Vera"

and "Philip thinks fiddling pelicans from Paraguay feels fun"

How old are your students?
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.uebersetzung.at/twister/

You can also find some Korean ones there to help with your Korean pronunciation Laughing
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try here:

http://international.ouc.bc.ca/pronunciation/
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have them for a couple of lessons, you could get the students to make them. Offer candy for prizes Smile

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tree



Joined: 01 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't teach sh - shiver, it sounds like FkU in Korean when Koreans say it.
Makes the class entertaining though.
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pandapanda



Joined: 22 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my elementary kids saying 33,333 which gives good 'th' practice and also is useful.
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mnhnhyouh



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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have a go at b/v and since the f lower lip position is about the same as that of V I will do them together. The problem is that when Koreans say this they join the lips together making the b sound.


Very Trevor Vast Verb Fast Fat Funny travel

Trevor had a vast verb
He was fat and funny.
He traveled fast.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some good r/l ones to be made as well. My students had big problems making the word girl, as you have them together. Tongue position diagrams are really handy for these, showing the positional differences.

rich rolling rough car store lick like lips girl call full

The rich rolling car
licked its rough lips watching
the full call girl go to the store.


Sorry, saw call and girl and full near one another and they just fell onto the page Wink

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raketbaler



Joined: 14 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rubber baby buggy bumper.
rubber baby buggy bumper.
rubber baby buggy bumper.
rubber baby buggy bumper.
rubber baby buggy bumper.
rubber baby buggy bumper.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This site has a few tongue-twisters (with sound) and a ton of English-learning games, etc. - including flash hangman ...
http://www.manythings.org/e/tt.html
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snehulak



Joined: 20 Nov 2005
Location: USA

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a good site for teaching phonetics. It gives you the proper pairings of consonants to teach, as well as profile views and native speaker pronunciation of each. Use this in conjunction with the tongue twisters.

http://www.uiowa.edu/%7Eacadtech/phonetics/english/frameset.html
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Jeweltone



Joined: 29 Mar 2005
Location: Seoul, S. Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I like fried rice." Explain to them what flies and lice are first. It was great incentive for my middle schoolers.

One oddity not mentioned is the tendency to translocate "ck" with a hard "k" sound. "Gretchen chucks chickens in the kitchen, then clucks."

"The lion roars loudly." Have the students practice roaring...it works (even got some uni students to do it!).
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