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crash bang



Joined: 11 Jul 2007
Location: gwangju

PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

favorite prince song?

for me, it's "kiss"
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tfunk wrote:
billybrobby wrote:
If you break it down:

Singing: Jackson
Dancing: Jackson, by far
Songwriting: Prince
Musicianship: Prince, by far
Selling Albums/Marketing: Jackson
Anti-record label ranting: Tie

For me, at the end of the day, I listen to Thriller all the time, whereas I hardly ever listen to Prince.


Singing: Prince has a better range than MJ.
MJ has a very distinctive and catchy voice.

Dancing: Prince. Sure, MJ can do the moonwalk and twirl, but can he do it in high heels? MJ would melt if he kept up the 3-hour sets Prince is famed for.

Marketing: Prince knows how to market himself. His latest albums suck, but he's one, if not THE, highest earning live performer over the past few years. Try finding Prince on YouTube. Can't find it? You'll just have to buy it.


I dunno...both of their careers are basically over now, but Michael Jackson occupied a stratospheric level of fame that Prince never even came close to. Show a Korean a picture of Michael Jackson and they'll probably say it's Michael Jackson. Show them a picture of Prince, and they'll probably say it's Michael Jackson.

I don't know about their vocal ranges, but I still say Michael is a way better dancer. Prince is a fine dancer, though.

But getting back the to question -- who has more talent? Prince's lyrics are more complex, whereas a lot of Michael's are corny and simplistic. Prince plays a ton of instruments, whereas you never see Michael play anything. Prince has created a variety of music whereas Michael's is more formulaic. Prince is cool in that early 80s kind of way, whereas Michael is creepy and insane. But still, when it comes to raw, blistering talent, I have to give it Michael. Prince was great, but was he great when he was 10 years old? Look at the stuff that Michael was doing as a little black kid. Prince was probably playing with toy trucks at that age.


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tfunk



Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland

PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:

I don't know about their vocal ranges, but I still say Michael is a way better dancer. Prince is a fine dancer, though.


Sounds like fighting talk.

Vocal ranges? Michael Jackson doesn't have a vocal range. It's either squeaky or girly. Prince goes deep, middle and shrill.

How many MJ songs can you find in a Noraebang? I've found Let's Go Crazy, Kiss, Purple Rain and When Dove's Cry.

Honestly though, MJ is the disco floor king. It's close on impossible not to dance to his music. Prince on the other hand never really makes me want to dance.

The thing about MJ's music is any style, even drunken style dancing works.
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visitorq



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prince is great, but he doesn't have that 'unbelievable' factor to him that MJ does. I'll be the first to admit Jacko's one weird dude, but all ad hominums aside, there's no question that he's the greater genius of the two, at least in terms of performing. He was one of those guys who you wondered 'how the hell does he do that"???, like with his walking on air and shlt. He's a really good singer, and a good pop songwriter, but mostly it's his dancing and live performance that does it. He pretty much invented the whole genre that today we call 'pop' (which unfortunately spawned britney, nsynch and that crap). Everyone that came after him jacked his style, copied his music videos, his choreography and his songs, but they are all crap in comparison because nobody else can even come close to doing what he did as well as he did it. Last I can remember Justin Timberlake was trying, but that was just a joke.

Personally, I'm not even into that kind of music so much (I like hard rock mostly), but for all the haters, just go and actually watch a video clip of his dancing, like at the motown anniversary where he breaks out the moonwalk for the first time during billy jean (prolly find it on youtube). It's just unreal, nobody else can do that...
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, "unbelievable factor" is a good term. There's some stuff Michael does and you're just like "good lord, what did I just see?" whereas Prince never really gets me like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tICestGPPbs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wazeakl8lfo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF03reiMs0Y&feature=related

Also, and I could be wrong, but didn't he basically invent the whole thing where you have the pop star in front of a bunch of back up dancers and they're doing the synchronized dances? I know this is such a common, obvious thing, but I never see people doing that on the old 70s variety shows. If it's true, then he is largely responsible for both K-Pop and K-Fed.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

billybrobby wrote:
didn't he basically invent the whole thing where you have the pop star in front of a bunch of back up dancers and they're doing the synchronized dances?

yeah, that was one of his innovations for sure. The main difference is that when you see him doing it in the videos for thriller or beat it, he blows away all his back-up dancers and commands the show. Whereas with britney et al, it's just the opposite; they can't dance worth a crap so they need to hire a bunch of pros to prop them up.
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