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[Rteacher]

Even if you think this world to be a very nice place, you can't make a permanent settlement here.

And even if you find a relationship that you think is real love, it inevitably ends in disappointment when your mate dies.

It's a sad fact that all material relationships end in either disappointment or frustration because of the temporary and changing nature of material bodies and minds.

Deep down, we all want to be free from old age, disease, and death - but those are the basic miseries of the material world, and (according to the Vedic version) we undergo millions of repetitions of the "wheel of birth and death" throughout the evolutionary cycle.

When one - usually after trying every kind of material enjoyment available in every form of life - finally realizes that real happiness is practically nonexistent here, one becomes more receptive to taking up a devotional process.

The ultimate goal is to transfer our pure conciousness to the transcendental abode that's full of unlimited happiness and beauty -emanating from the Supreme Person, who enjoys neverending pleasure pastimes with pure devotees in spiritual bodies.

As long as our consciousness is materially absorbed, our illusory struggle for existence (we never really die) and our pursuit of false happiness will continue.

[mindmetoo]

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[Rteacher]

I'm not about to read through Mein Kampf myself ...

For purposes of discussion, I see no reason why direct quotes attributed to Hitler in conversations and referenced by respected authors should not be considered valid evidence.

What Hitler found objectionable about Christianity was its rejection of Darwin�s theory: �Its teaching, he declared, was a rebellion against the natural law of selection by struggle and the survival of the fittest.�

Moreover, assuming the National Review does reasonable fact-checking of articles it publishes, there are numerous statements alluding to evolution in Hitler's writings:

You only have to read Mein Kampf to see the indebtedness. A shrewd manipulator of his fellow Germans� sympathy for scientifically flavored racial theorizing, Hitler gives a Darwinian-style analysis of how the struggle for existence mandates a defense of the Aryan race.

He invokes the �principles of Nature�s rule,� �her whole work of higher breeding,� in which �struggle is always a means for improving a species� health and power of resistance and, therefore, a cause of its higher development.� He warns against racial decline from the mixing of blood � his own spin on Darwinism � arguing that the preservation of a �creative race� is �bound up with the rigid law of necessity and the right of victory of the best and stronger in this world.� He calls for �a more noble evolution.�
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mjg1NDg2ZDM5YTMwMGFiZGNhNTU5M2MwOTQ2NGE1Mjc=#more

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[mindmetoo]

Rteacher, yes or no. If evolution is true (modern man emerged about 100,000 years ago and modern civilization maybe about 10,000 b.c.), your holy book is factually wrong about man's origins. Yes or no?

[Justin Hale]

Ben Stein has been quoted repeatedly as saying that the underlying message in "Expelled" is "No Darwin, no Hitler". Yes, this is a particularly egregious example of Godwin's Law, but it is cited so often by creationists and ID supporters that I have prepared the following refutation. Enjoy!


Hitler and Darwin demolished here: http://evolutionlist.blogspot.com/2008/03/godwins-darwin.html

[Rteacher]

In response to "mindmetoo", since scientific conclusions of this type are admittedly tentative, speculative, and subject to change, there is no way to establish those findings as truth.

And even if they were considered apparently true according to best scientific estimates, it could be interpreted to indicate one of the periodic re-emergences of humans (and other species) mentioned in the Bhagavatam after cyclical devastations.

The Srimad Bhagavatam also makes statements about life and events throughout the universe, and it's not always clear if references are to this Earth or to other planets and planetary systems.

In response to "Justin Hale", I think National Review is a more reliable source than that sleazy-looking guy's blog.

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[Justin Hale]

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