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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| buy a car. It allows you to never take taxis, buses, or subways unless you choose to. It gives you freedom and a status boost, both to yourself and how others view you. |
Dave's Road Rage ESL Cafe! Word! |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: |
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| captain kirk wrote: |
| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| buy a car. It allows you to never take taxis, buses, or subways unless you choose to. It gives you freedom and a status boost, both to yourself and how others view you. |
Dave's Road Rage ESL Cafe! Word! |
Actually on second thought, don't buy a car in Korea. It may take you longer to get where you want to go, but hell if I don't see about 20 things a day on the road here that leave me shaking my head in utter bewilderment.
Like: what's the deal with people going 20-60 over the speed limit, on the highway, when there are speed cameras as clear as day for all to see? My only explanation is they must know someone who can have their hundreds of speeding tickets erased. |
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tommy77
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
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| actually we are the envy of them, we are the kings, they learn our language, copy our things, try to act like us, and we get tons of women. Back home they hang out in groups and play games alone in their rooms because they are looked down on, they have no status, we are the kings, but they are jealous and want to make it hard on us. Ask any k person if they would be flattered if some country paid them tons of money to just talk in front of a group of kids, adults, with people taking notes and always trying to invite them out to drink. |
Please for the love of God watch South Park season 12 episode 4.
You sound more like a Queen to me!!!! |
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Bagpipes11
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:31 am Post subject: |
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I spent five years in Korea. My experience with Koreans has been generally positive. Sure I have had a few instances that pissed me off but the majority of hospitality that I remember is getting an extra free dish of food at a restaurant, or my students parents buying me a gift at the end of a contract. Being invited into a Korean home for Chuseok dinner. Not to mention the lifelong friendships that I have with many Koreans.
I think that the people who come onto this board hating on Koreans is a serious issue. Like one of the posters said, probably a single guy who got his heart broken so he is angry at the culture.
Being back in Canada, I am sure that there are many things about us Canadians that piss off immigrants here. As Canadians, we all instinctively believe that we are so wordly and kind. The reality is...we are not that warm to people who immigrate here. We aren't mean to them, but it isn't like we are opening our homes to complete strangers who just came from a far away land.
This is what most foreigners overlook when coming to Korea. For some unknown reason, many foreigners in Korea victimize themselves and turn sour to everything Korean. I must admit, I was at times guilty of this while I was there.
Focus on the good things....not the bad ones. Because when your Korean experience is all over, it is only the good memories that I keep thinking about. |
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thekakapo
Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Things Foreigners Will Overlook to Stay in Korea.... |
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KOREANS USUALLY OVERCHARGE SCRUFFY LOOKING FOREIGNERS. CAUSE THEY THINK THOSE SCRUFFY FOREIGNERS MIGHT BE STUPID. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO OUTSIDE LOOKING SO SCRUFFY. YES I SOMETIMES WONDER WHY THE HECK SO SCRUFFY FOREIGNERS WANDER AROUND SEOUL. KOREA DOESN'T FORCE YOU TO STAY. YOU CAN FREELY LEAVE. |
Hahaha... I was just luring on here, avoiding work, but that made me LOL.
I have never seen the word "scruffy" used so many times in one post! Makes me think of rambunctious dogs!
scruffy scruffy |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| Bagpipes11 wrote: |
I spent five years in Korea. My experience with Koreans has been generally positive. Sure I have had a few instances that pissed me off but the majority of hospitality that I remember is getting an extra free dish of food at a restaurant, or my students parents buying me a gift at the end of a contract. Being invited into a Korean home for Chuseok dinner. Not to mention the lifelong friendships that I have with many Koreans.
I think that the people who come onto this board hating on Koreans is a serious issue. Like one of the posters said, probably a single guy who got his heart broken so he is angry at the culture.
Being back in Canada, I am sure that there are many things about us Canadians that piss off immigrants here. As Canadians, we all instinctively believe that we are so wordly and kind. The reality is...we are not that warm to people who immigrate here. We aren't mean to them, but it isn't like we are opening our homes to complete strangers who just came from a far away land.
This is what most foreigners overlook when coming to Korea. For some unknown reason, many foreigners in Korea victimize themselves and turn sour to everything Korean. I must admit, I was at times guilty of this while I was there.
Focus on the good things....not the bad ones. Because when your Korean experience is all over, it is only the good memories that I keep thinking about. |
One, we're not all Canadians here (though I am).
Two, what happens in Canada has no relevance to what happens in Korea. I could point out what happens in Saudi Arabia, but it wouldn't matter.
Three, in the end, I actually think the way you described, treating them like everyone else without out extra benefits or problems, is actually the best way. Yes, in MANY ways I have been treated well here, but I will always be an outsider (other things too).
I agree it's not good to focus on the bad things, but you must also not ignore them, as they will never be changed if no one knows about them. |
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Bagpipes11
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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You make a good point. What happens in Canada is separate from what happens in Korea. The only reason that I bring it up is because I have heard numerous times...."This would never happen back home"
1. I am Canadian, I live in Canada, so I can speak for the way things are here. I was using it as an example. I wasn't trying to generalize.
2. You are treated as an outsider in Korea...surprise, surprise. Koreans treat other Koreans who aren't in their family, colleagues or circles of friends as outsiders. A foreigner? The manner in which Koreans are brought up, foreigners do not even register on their radar.
3. Change? Change what? Confucian values deeply instilled into the majority of Korean's value systems? or Korean Nationalism and fear of anything Foreign?
I agree that Korea has a long way to go. I am just not sure that hating on Koreans here on an ESL chat site will produce any results. (laogaiguk, I am not referring to you...just a general comment) |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River
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| wow, someone must have had a bad day. how long have you been in korea? |
You know this question annoys me the most because its usually asked by someone who has been in Korea less than 6 months or someone who says Wow, why have you been here this long?".
I must admit, while I shrug my shoulders a lot and and accept that not every one has had my experience, some people should S.T.F.U before they criticise people who have been here a long time.
Also they should just S.T.F.U if they don't know the personal situation. It would make living in this country a lot easier if someone didn't accuse you of having a bad day or feel that they have to tell you how they haven't experienced it.
If you haven't experienced what I have in Korea, "Then Thank God as it sucked when I did", but I don't need you telling others or me that they or I shouldn't feel bad about it because you never experienced it and it must have been a one off experience.
How many one offs make a routine? |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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Love all the so-cal hate midway through this thread.
Impersonal, snobby people? Gee, Korea's the exact opposite of that! Good thing we're not out to impress anyone, unlike back home!
I'm trying to get a job in Japan (thanks to a real nice breakup with a Korean woman who forgot to tell me she was married), but while I'm sitting here in SoCal, I'm definitely enjoying the burritos, micro-brew, and idyllic weather. Have a nice sojourn in Korea, OnTheOtherSide, I'll be interested in watching you quickly sing a new tune. |
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