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Catullus



Joined: 09 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Overtime rate Reply with quote

I am a newbie heading to Korea, and I am currently negotiating my first contract. I am wondering what a reasonable overtime rate would be. My salary is 2.5 million won per month, and the overtime rate is 20,000 per hour. Is this an acceptable overtime rate?
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think 20,000 seems to be the average for most. I get 20,000 from one of my schools and 25,000 from the other.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF your salary is 2.5 mil then your hourly rate is 20,833 per hour.

Why would you accept an overtime rate that is less than your hourly rate?

(assuming you get 2.5 mil for 120 hours per month / typical hakwon classes).

It should be 1.5x your hourly rate (as per article 56 of the labor standards act). The bad news is that it probably doesn't matter because most hakwons will find a way, through creative book-keeping, to avoid paying you any overtime.

If you are talking about supplemental pay for extra classes within your work day (not overtime or outside of school hours) in a public school setting, then 20k is standard for a 40 minute class.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It should be 1.5x your hourly rate (as per article 56 of the labor standards act). The bad news is that it probably doesn't matter because most hakwons will find a way, through creative book-keeping, to avoid paying you any overtime.


I been told that some public schools do this too.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:
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It should be 1.5x your hourly rate (as per article 56 of the labor standards act). The bad news is that it probably doesn't matter because most hakwons will find a way, through creative book-keeping, to avoid paying you any overtime.


I been told that some public schools do this too.


If they do, start complaining up the hill.....
Don't stop till you get satisfaction.

You can replace them far easier than they can replace you....

"No" is also a good word to learn.
No extra pay = no teacher in the extra classes.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ be careful, public schools have their own tricks/technicalities they play on. if any regular classes are cancelled for school trips, holidays, etc., some public schools will start docking your extra class pay. ex. you missed four classes because of a school trip, minus 4 hours extra class pay

i've personally decided never to do extra classes again, but if you do extra classes make sure they understand and sign something to the effect that you will get paid such and such money on a certain date for the set of classes.
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jellobean



Joined: 14 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or get paid per students per month.... There is no way to turn that into hours Smile
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