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That hit and run accident with the army guy
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:13 am    Post subject: That hit and run accident with the army guy Reply with quote
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200311/29/200311290123009179900090409041.html


Anyone know why news of this event has been so sparse? I thought when I first read it, a rage would sweep across the country but it seems to have gone barely noticed.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've been waiting for the reaction too, but it's not happening.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
This might be one reason for the relative lack of an uproar:

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Under the Status of Forces Agreement, the legal framework governing the U.S. military in South Korea, the primary jurisdiction in a fatal hit-and-run accident involving U.S. military personnel is in South Korea, according to police and the Foreign Ministry.
"We will hand over Sergeant Olken to U.S. custody after an investigation," a police official said yesterday. "We will summon him again if we believe he has to be held in our custody."


Am I correct in understanding that that this means he'll be tried in a Korean court?
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
The guy must have been drunk, why else would he run away? And the fact that he was asleep when the cops came, what a moron. If he wasn't drunk, he should have made up something like he was afrain he was going to get linched if anyone found out nearby.
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
shawner88 wrote:
The guy must have been drunk, why else would he run away? And the fact that he was asleep when the cops came, what a moron. If he wasn't drunk, he should have made up something like he was afrain he was going to get linched if anyone found out nearby.



he was drunk:
JoongAng Daily wrote:
U.S. sergeant to face hit-run indictment

The Suwon District Public Prosecutors Office said yesterday that it would indict a U.S. Army sergeant involved in a hit-and-run accident that left a South Korean woman dead and four others injured on Nov. 28.
According to the U.S. 8th Army, the suspect, Sergeant Jerry Onken, has been handed over to Korean authorities. He will also be charged with driving under the influence of alcohol, the military said. U.S. and Korean authorities conducted a blood alcohol test after the incident.
Assigned to 1-43 Air Defense Artillery Battalion in Suwon, Gyeonggi province, Sergeant Onken has been investigated by South Korean police on charges of leaving an accident scene.
Korea has jurisdiction in the case because Sergeant Onken was not on official business when the accident occurred.


http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200312/06/200312060222089709900090309031.html

This guy actually left his kevlar and Military ID in the car when he ran. Real smart retard. I hope they fry him.

Before anyone decides to flame me- I am a gulf war vet and have served in the 2ID here in Korea. My little sister is in Iraq right now. I am NOT anti-militay. My closest in age sister was killed by a drunk driver when she was 18.
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I didn't see that more recent story...thanks.


DWI in Korea is .51 I wonder wht this guy blew. Whatever it was, they would have to take the 5 hours into account that he was asleep.

How stupid can you get. If he was going to run away, he should have gotten a yeogwan and turned himself in a few days later and sticking to the story he was afraid Koreans would lynch him. Then again, probably the others involved told everything that happened anyway.
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
shawner88 wrote:
DWI in Korea is .51


Is that a typo? A 140-pound male would need more than 15 drinks to get to that level.

http://beerboozebooks.com/bal.htm

Is it really that high?
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shawner88



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
J.B. Clamence wrote:
shawner88 wrote:
DWI in Korea is .51


Is that a typo? A 140-pound male would need more than 15 drinks to get to that level.

http://beerboozebooks.com/bal.htm

Is it really that high?



Yeah right, oops. .051 sorry
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just because



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2003 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Am I correct in understanding that that this means he'll be tried in a Korean court?


This is true. He is in big trouble!!!! He deserves it to after killing a person while drunk driving.
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HardyandTiny



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
just because wrote:
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Am I correct in understanding that that this means he'll be tried in a Korean court?


This is true. He is in big trouble!!!! He deserves it to after killing a person while drunk driving.

He will most likely be tried in a Korean court. The Koreans have the right to prosecute him in a Korean court, which is not unusual, hundreds of soldiers have been prosecuted in Korean courts over the years.
The Koreans have about 6 weeks to decide whether they will take jurisdiction in the case.
The Koreans also have the right to hold him in custody before and during his Korean trial. This right written into the revised SOFA in ~2001 has never been exercised by the Korean courts.

The families of the victims, especially the woman who died, would be wise to ask the Korea authorities to give full jurisdiction to the US military so that the drunken driver receives proper punishment.
I doubt that he would get more than three years in a Korean court and I'm certain he would get more than twenty years in a US court.

The Thai-Americn male soldier who was found guilty of raping a Korean male soldier this year was sentenced to thirty years in a US military court!
That type of punishment would be unthinkable in a Korean court.

When the US soldier, Specialist Christopher McCarthy, was found guilty of murdering a Korean prostitute back in 2000. He was tried in a Korean court and the Korean judge only sentenced him to 8 years!
What can we expect in a vehicular manslaughter case?

The Japanese are keen to this trick. They always ask for the US military members to be turned over to the US military court when they have the bastard dead to rights.
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