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legalquestions
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:19 am Post subject: Korean on trial for murder allowed to teach in hogwans |
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Anyone else read this in the paper over the weekend? It seems that a Korean/Korean-American, jumped bail and returned to Korea after commmiting a murder in the US.
He subsequently turned himself in to Korean authorities upon his arrival here, but they refused to hold him or to press charges. He was then allowed to teach in hogwans here for several years, even though the Korean authorities knew he had skipped bail on the murder charges in the US.
I was just wondering if anyone had been able to find out any more information on this in the Korean media? |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:48 am Post subject: |
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That's not exactly how it went down, if you're talking about the case I think you are.
http://koreabeat.com/?p=859 |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| OP: You might want to brush up on the concept of extradition treaties. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| OP: You might want to brush up on the concept of extradition treaties. |
Although I understand that there was no extradition treay I have always wondered why they didn't just deport him. I mean this is a country that deports anyone who HIV positive. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps because their immigration law provides for such deportation of someone with a communicable disease but does not provide for deportation of someone accused, but not convicted, of a crime in a country with which Korea does not have an extradition treaty.
I'm not defending the dude, merely the concept of rule of law. At any rate, Korea does now have such a treaty with the US and the guy's going to get his day in court, although he did try to avoid even that. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
Perhaps because their immigration law provides for such deportation of someone with a communicable disease but does not provide for deportation of someone accused, but not convicted, of a crime in a country with which Korea does not have an extradition treaty.
I'm not defending the dude, merely the concept of rule of law. At any rate, Korea does now have such a treaty with the US and the guy's going to get his day in court, although he did try to avoid even that. |
I know where you are coming from but I always thought that deportation was discretionary in Korea's case. |
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legalquestions
Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I guess what really struck me about this story is that they would give him a work visa to teach in the hogwons, knowing that he was charged with murder in the states, and had skipped bail. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Was he given an E2 visa? The article doesn't mention that. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ED209 wrote: |
| Was he given an E2 visa? The article doesn't mention that. |
As a person of Korean ancestry he would most likely have had an "F4" or was more likely a Korean who had been in the states on a green card and NOT a US citizen.
It is unlikely that he ever graduated with a degree so was NOT on an E2. As such he would not have undergone the checks that we on "E" visas must undergo (degree verifications, transcripts, (now CRCs, medicals and apostilles on our documents)).
Just like most asshats who get busted here for stuff, or have their skeletons fall out of the closet, they are not usually "E2 visa holders" but we pay the price for their crimes because we are the easy target.
Korea NOT Sparkling.
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| legalquestions wrote: |
| Well, I guess what really struck me about this story is that they would give him a work visa to teach in the hogwons, knowing that he was charged with murder in the states, and had skipped bail. |
Why is it hard to believe? The police and Immigration don't even talk to each other or share files unless the police want the foreigner gone. |
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kumuka
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: Murderer teaches in Hagwon |
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Unbelievable! Everytime a Korean /American does something wrong, it is conveyed in the press that he's an American. Whether its this fool, the Virginia Univ student killer, etc.
However, when someone like Michelle Wie, or that fruity model guy or the Korean/American football player, THEN they are hailed as returning Korean heroes.
Double Standard!!Korea always has to save face and constantly skews the facts to deter any shame. |
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ryouga013
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Murderer teaches in Hagwon |
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| kumuka wrote: |
Unbelievable! Everytime a Korean /American does something wrong, it is conveyed in the press that he's an American. Whether its this fool, the Virginia Univ student killer, etc.
However, when someone like Michelle Wie, or that fruity model guy or the Korean/American football player, THEN they are hailed as returning Korean heroes.
Double Standard!!Korea always has to save face and constantly skews the facts to deter any shame. |
Are you new to Korea or are you simply warning the newbies?  |
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earthbound14
Joined: 23 Jan 2007
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I got one for ya. A knew a few Koreans here who had been kicked out of the US and now work in Korea.
Mr Kim (not his real name...but it easily could be) sold crystal meth in the US (he lived in the US far longer than he did in Korea so don't get too testy here). Since he wasn't an American the police were really nice and gave him an option, go to jail or high tail it back to Korea and never come back...leave your house, wife and kid (he married an American). He now works in a Hogwan and because he's Korean by birth (and by citizenship) no one checks up on his criminal record. So an ex crystal meth dealer turned Korean prostitute shagger (he's Korean, he has no trouble with this...and admits he loves the cheap girls here and wonders why he ever married an American girl....) is now your friendly neighbourhood English teacher. Nice.
Mr. Han (again not his real name) was fired from his high paying job in silicon valley (so he says) and was too embarassed to face his parents that he blew all his money on drugs (he lost everything, house, wife, everything...but he kept the Lexus to live in). Coke was his favourite vice from what he told me. Parents found him and sent him back to Korea to clean him up...not bad considering the harsh drug laws here....but now he's a priest. OK, I'm all for forgiveness and being able to turn ones life around, but considering the shit they put us through for even minor offences....well, I can't help but be a little pissed off at the double standard.
These two Korean gents were the darling friends of my previous boss, another gem in Korea who forever crapped on me every time I didn't kiss her hideous Korean arse.
This whole 'one-blood" nonsense chafs my butt. |
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