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Scotticus
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^Wait. I take it back. They mispronounce all Chinese characters. According to Scotticus they should cease calling Beijing 'Bugyong' right away.
"But that's how they've been pronouncing them for hundreds of years!" I hear you cry. "Those pronunciations were established back before the modern Chinese pronunciations were fixed, when there were various ways depending on the region. Why is the Korean way any less valid than any other?". Good point! Well, guess what: you know those 'incorrect' ways the English pronounce European city names...? |
You're not the brightest bulb in the bunch, are you? I never said Korea doesn't butcher the pronuciations of other languages... all I said was that every other language on earth does the EXACT same thing, including English. To bitch about Koreans mispronouncing the names of cities/countries is stupid when you take no offense to English speakers doing the exact same thing.
Hell, an excellent example can be found right here in the good ole ROK! Any westerner who's never been to Korea will pronounce "Seoul" the same as "soul." However, any idiot who's been here for a week or so knows that that's NOT how Koreans pronounce it. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Horangi Munshin wrote: |
At my first job in Korea in 2000 a mum asked me where I was from.
I had to keep repeating New Zealand. I have always refused to butcher it and say nuu jiland.
Comprehension finally seemed to dawn. Then she said "Ahh Virginia!!"  |
It's not butchering it. It is Korean pronunciation. Just like in English we "butcher" a lot of country names. Do you also refuse to pronounce those the English way? |
Korean pronunciation?? It's Konglish..
You taking over where homer left off  |
Is that the best you've got. You know I am right, just admit it. Accusing me of being like Homer proves you have no argument. How is it Konglish? Like others have said, we do the exact same thing in English with place names. We also pronounce Beijing incorrectly and Seoul incorrectly. Damn us for speaking Enginese and Engrean. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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^Wait. I take it back. They mispronounce all Chinese characters. According to Scotticus they should cease calling Beijing 'Bugyong' right away.
"But that's how they've been pronouncing them for hundreds of years!" I hear you cry. "Those pronunciations were established back before the modern Chinese pronunciations were fixed, when there were various ways depending on the region. Why is the Korean way any less valid than any other?". Good point! Well, guess what: you know those 'incorrect' ways the English pronounce European city names...? |
You're not the brightest bulb in the bunch, are you? I never said Korea doesn't butcher the pronuciations of other languages... all I said was that every other language on earth does the EXACT same thing, including English. To bitch about Koreans mispronouncing the names of cities/countries is stupid when you take no offense to English speakers doing the exact same thing.
Hell, an excellent example can be found right here in the good ole ROK! Any westerner who's never been to Korea will pronounce "Seoul" the same as "soul." However, any idiot who's been here for a week or so knows that that's NOT how Koreans pronounce it. |
BINGO!! |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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^Wait. I take it back. They mispronounce all Chinese characters. According to Scotticus they should cease calling Beijing 'Bugyong' right away.
"But that's how they've been pronouncing them for hundreds of years!" I hear you cry. "Those pronunciations were established back before the modern Chinese pronunciations were fixed, when there were various ways depending on the region. Why is the Korean way any less valid than any other?". Good point! Well, guess what: you know those 'incorrect' ways the English pronounce European city names...? |
You're not the brightest bulb in the bunch, are you? I never said Korea doesn't butcher the pronuciations of other languages... all I said was that every other language on earth does the EXACT same thing, including English. To bitch about Koreans mispronouncing the names of cities/countries is stupid when you take no offense to English speakers doing the exact same thing.
Hell, an excellent example can be found right here in the good ole ROK! Any westerner who's never been to Korea will pronounce "Seoul" the same as "soul." However, any idiot who's been here for a week or so knows that that's NOT how Koreans pronounce it. |
Oops! I guess I should have said "according to skconqueror". It's hard to keep track sometimes. |
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Grab the Chickens Levi
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Ilsan
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Genrally any time I call home during any time of the year and despite having lived here 4 years and having explained a million times - my familly are still convinced I live in Thailand.
It's always, 'you're so lucky with all the hot weather and palm trees... it's been raining a lot here...'
I explain that I'm in Korea, NE Asia not SE etc and that the weather here is actually WORSE than in the SE England.... But it just doesn't seem to connect....
My Mum didn't want me to come here as she was convinced I'd die in a nuclear bombing....
And back home I'd go out for food with friends and eat sushi or Chinese food and they'd all say how I must eat this all the time in Korea lol....
Generally no-one has any clue about Korea whatsoever (nor did I before I came here...)
I wonder when other countires will become more knowledgable / familliar with them and why people in the west have so much less knowledge about Korea than they do China, Japan, Thailand, Vietnam etc... It's weird too how there were so many movies about WW2, Vietnam war etc but the korean War is all but dead and buried with regards to popular cultural referencing... Like - why were the other wars so much more interesting and engaging in that sense... weird..... |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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I am in America and for some reason I thought Korea and Japan were alot farther North, like cold 10 months out of the year. Come to find out it is in line with Istanbul, Turkey which I assumed was a big desert. I did not realize how far north Europe was. Wow, I need to look at a world map more often.
I think there are misconceptions about all countries. You say your going to Istanbul, Turkey, OMG thats the middle east..there will be car bombs going off all around you.
Personally, I have never been outside the US except for the Carribbean and yes, I have only seen snow on the ground once in my life in small clumps and have never seen it actually fall from the sky. I just read the thread about snow boots and of course I googled it right away, wondering OMG I need snow boots ,what are snow boots and why can't I wear regualr boots. Thermals, gloves, scarves... I am buying my first of it all. This should be an interesting winter in Korea for me. It sort of sucks though b/c I was looking foward to playing out in the snow and opening my mouth and letting the snow fall in but obviously in Korea I'll get acid snow. 
I am going to bring pictures of my hometown b/c they said the Koreans will be interested in where I live. Also, my best friend is American-Korean (was born in the US and adopted by white folks) and I will bring alot of picutes of her and I, especially with her big ass boob job. I think they will be suprised by that.  |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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You don't need boots in Korea. There's only a bit of snow.
Acid snow?
Is your post serious? |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Yes, why do you think its so crazy... I am from South Florida (West Palm Beach) and I have travelled alot in the US up north (Maine, Washington, Vermont) I just always go in the summer months.
So I am obviously not well aware of how to dress when there is snow on the gound b/c I have never experienced cold, snowy weather.
So you see, I am serious. |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Acid Snow... I dunno. I would assume if there is acid rain there is acid snow?? It does all come from the same place. Please enlighten me if I am incorrect.... |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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You don't need boots in Korea. There's only a bit of snow.
Acid snow?
Is your post serious? |
Yes, acid snow. It's sparkling.
But snow is the least of her worries. Think about acid rain, acid water, acid food, acid indigestion, Yellow Dust, unsafe roads, the threat of nuclear / bio / chemical attack, pipe-wielding American-hating angry mobs! Hell, she cut her life expectancy by one-third just by registering on Dave's!!! |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Acid Snow... I dunno. I would assume if there is acid rain there is acid snow?? It does all come from the same place. Please enlighten me if I am incorrect.... |
yeah, and it'll make you go bald if you dont' cover your hair too! |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| nolegirl, remember to wear a hat or an umbrella when it's raining or snowing in korea. after my first year i actually lost a lot of hair (thank god, my hair was pretty thick to begin with). i'd also invest in some weekly hair mask stuff once you get over here |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:57 am Post subject: |
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| There's a white Christian here in town who keeps saying I'm dating a "dogeating, sawed-off Jap." Of course, Koreans are tall and few eat dog. I need to go back to Asia and teach before I kick this dude's ass. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, acid rain I have felt in Korea, years ago, made the skin itchy (not in Seoul).
Not snow though, and it only snows 5-10 times a year here (maybe more but very little comes down usually, all gone in 12-24 hours). So boots are unnecessary except for fashion or hiking.
Well, I'm from a place with real snow, so apologies to those not well acquainted with the stuff.
Has anyone ever seen a Korean shovel snow? I haven't. Just brooms. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| There's a white Christian here in town who keeps saying I'm dating a "dogeating, sawed-off Jap." |
Such a beautiful, understanding group of people, don't you think?
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| Has anyone ever seen a Korean shovel snow? I haven't. Just brooms. |
Hahaha, yeah. I'm from Western NY where we get buried every winter, multiple times. Coming from a place where everyone owns multiple shovels, it's funny seeing people sweeping snow. |
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