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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
[sarcasm]
Obama's right...we have 57 states.
51. Canada
52. Puerto Rico
53. Guam and the Pacific island territories
54. the UK
55. Iraq/Afghanistan
56. Denial
57. Apathy
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In the meantime, McCain's age will be apparent in light of all these gaffs.
But, Chris Matthews of MSNBC once said that a gaff is when a politician is saying what he truly thinks but doesn't poll well.
Speaking of age...
http://www.oldmanmccain.com/2008/05/obamas-senior-deficit.html
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| There's no telling how many McCainiac seniors will be swayed by the Obama campaign pointing out that McCain has spent years waging war on Social Security and Medicare and basically thinks everyone should get on the "marry a wealthy heiress" retirement plan, but it's going to be more than zero people. Seniors have already heard a good deal of the sort of culture war attacks on Obama that are likely to be the biggest thing driving them toward McCain, but they've heard essentially nothing of the retirement policy attacks on McCain that are likely to be the biggest thing driving them toward Obama. Consequently, Obama's senior deficit is very big. But he's winning anyway, and though he'll probably never close the senior gap he'll almost certainly narrow it. |
So, his policies and votes, whenever he doesn't change them to suit whatever the special interests that run his campaign say, will be the main nails in his campaign coffin. It's just a matter of time before another big nail comes along. |
If people are living longer they ought to get social security later in life.
Americans live much longer and are much more able at 65 then they used to be and in the future probably even more so.
Social security needs to reflect reality. It needs to be moved to 69 then 72 and eventually 75 or more.
If the US doesn't do anything about entitlements it will bankrupt the US. |
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bookemdanno
Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:54 am Post subject: |
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Leslie speculated:
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| I think he meant to say 47 states. But hey, that's just Leslie out on a limb. |
Could be right, bruddah. Hawai'i is going over to the sovereignty movement big time and might yet secede and become a kingdom again.
That leaves 49 states.
Texas proudly claims to be "a whole nother country," and actually was at one time. Certainly its egos and great expanse warrant secession.
That leaves 48 states.
And then there is the little matter of Lose-ianna which doesn't even call its counties by the same name and has the strangest breed of politics in the union. It also has too much French influence.
That leaves 47 states.
But even then I'd have to disagree with Obama because:
46) Mississippi still flies Confederate flags at its state colleges and has mascots like rebels and colonels.
45) Utah is stuck in Mormon never-never land with too many polygamists left over. Dennis Rodman was right for a change.
44) Vermont is lily-white rich liberal but likens itself to a socialist utopia.
43) West Virginia is in-bred.
42) Idaho is home to lots of libertarians and white militias.
41) Nevada is a perverse haven unto itself with Vegas gambling and legal prostitution plus a huge influx of out-of-place Polynesians from Hawai'i.
40) California has a Terminator for a Governor who still can't pronounce the state name correctly, two bimbos in Boxer and Feinstein, Hollyweird, and San Fran panhandlers not to mention Tom Cruise and John Travolta Scientologists galore and Bahai Faith followers.
39) Arkansas has three semi-retired redneck politicians: Billy Bob Clinton, Ross Perot, and now Mike Huckabee.
That leaves 38 states by my calculations; I almost included New York but upstate redeems NYC and its unrealworld-unto-itself and in-your-face mentality. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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The age thing is a delicate issue. I do think it's fair to take a candidate's age into consideration, but mostly in terms of health. Does a candidate seem healthy enough to withstand the stress of the job? Do whatever health problems a candidate has had in the past appear likely to interfere with the job?
I'm more than a little leary of judging McCain's slips of the tongue as 'senior moments'. Everyone makes verbal slips. It is not unique to people over the age of 70. There is the possibility of using McCain's mistakes as fodder for age discrimination and that would be unfair.
In my opinion, his temper is a more serious problem. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| The age thing is a delicate issue. I do think it's fair to take a candidate's age into consideration, but mostly in terms of health. Does a candidate seem healthy enough to withstand the stress of the job? Do whatever health problems a candidate has had in the past appear likely to interfere with the job? |
Well, in that regard McCain holds up well.
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I'm more than a little leary of judging McCain's slips of the tongue as 'senior moments'. Everyone makes verbal slips. It is not unique to people over the age of 70. There is the possibility of using McCain's mistakes as fodder for age discrimination and that would be unfair.
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Precisely. Nevertheless, I think R.S. is still right, at the end of the day. Many young voters will have a bias against McCain, even those who do not already lean Democrat. Whether that is right or not is another issue. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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McCain is actually quite popular with young voters. Even before he was running for President, McCain was on the Daily Show and other popular programs cracking jokes.
But, the fact of the matter is, young voters don't vote. And because young voters don't vote, the government doesn't give a crap about them.
Why don't candidate ever concentrate on Asian voters? Because all Asian Americans can go out and vote for a single candidate and it'll give a candidate half a percentage point. |
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