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[Pligganease]

Anyone see his endorsement speech? He sounded like he was already on the ticket, didn't he?

[Ya-ta Boy]

I haven't seen it yet but will take a look later.

He has two things going for him:

1) He's from the right part of the country. Democrats don't win if they don't nominate a Southerner. In addition, the symbolism of a white Southerner running with a black man would be powerful.

2) His campaign was aimed at working class voters and that's a constituency where Obama has been weak.


I can't decide if his age is a plus or a minus. He looks young and the two of them standing on a stage togther would be something that would work against McCain. His biggest weakness, much like Obama's own, is the level of experience.

He is certainly someone to look carefully at.

[Gopher]

Nope. All Hillary's...if she still wants it.

[Kuros]

I think if Obama wants to heal the Hillary wound, and does not want to add Hillary, the best second choice would be James Webb of VA.

The argument against Hillary also works against Edwards: either would be a strong, forceful Vice-President who would detract from Obama's freedom of action.

But Obama should select a Vice President based on picking up Electoral points. Edwards helps pick up North Carolina, Webb may help Obama in Virginia, and at best Hillary aids Obama in Arkansas.

Edwards is certainly not Obama's worst choice. And from an electoral standpoint, I think he's better than Richardson (who would be more useful as SecState anyway).

[Pluto]

[mises]

I deleted my comment cause it was was me stating the obvious..

You're right. Taxes are going to go up with a Democratic administration. But I don't think they will go up as much as some fear as the Republicans make a very aggressive and effective opponent when in the minority.

Anyways, taxes on the very wealthy should be raised and on the poor lowered. I don't mean pre-Thatcher UK rates, but a few % here and there. Warren Buffet pays less taxes as a % of his income than his secretary, and the tax code should be altered to address this.

[Pluto]

With regards to the overall tax rate, if they do some tinkering to tax the rich more and tax the poor less, that is fine. However, have you seen Obama's tax proposals? They're ridiculous!
I am always looking to cut down the power of government and the overall tax burden so that is what matters. Just keep in mind if you do decide to soak the rich, all the rich will do is pass on the costs on down the line. That means the rich stay rich while they invest less providing less opportunity for those in the lower income strata. In my opinion, it's better the rich have money as opposed to the government.

[mises]

I generally agree with you Pluto. But I'm somewhat under Obama's spell right now and my economic principles are loosening.

I'm no Marxist, and don't stay awake at night worrying about the rich and their Bently's when compared to me and my Honda. I like my Honda just fine. But there are (unfortunately) wars to pay for, social security, medical benefits to troops, Medicare/ade and the rest. We have to pay for all of this and I can't think of a situation in which we can realistically do this without more taxes.

[Kuros]

[Gopher]

Goddamit. No one laughed at my clip. Further, you all continue talking like CNN, MSNBC, and FOXNews on play-by-play election thread after play-by-play election thread.

I will vote for whomever you want if you will just talk about something else at this point.

[Big_Bird]

I promise to laugh at your clip when I'm able to watch it. Tehe.

What would you like to talk about, Mr G?

[Milwaukiedave]

I don't think he should put Edwards on the ticket. I've read privately Edwards has been talking about AG, which is where his experience is strongest.

I like the idea of Webb on the ticket, but two senators on the same ticket may not go over well with people. As a Democrat, we would end up having to defend two seats, one of which was barely won (Webb's victory in Virginia).

There are lots of quality people (including a few Hillary supporters) that would fit the bill. Clark and Bayh have been mentioned before (though again Bayh is a sitting senator), the governors of Arizona and Missouri (both women).

Also not mentioned is NARAL endorsed Obama as well. You should go over to their website. There are a lot of really pissed off people.

[catman]

Surprised at how right wing some of the Hillary supporters are sounding. "Obama can't win the white vote!"

[Kuros]

[Milwaukiedave]

Yes, I meant Kansas. Strickland would be fine with me, I don't know much about him. The ones that would be I would be strongly against would be Rendell or Clinton herself. I do think there are several good people who supported Clinton that should strongly be considered though.