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[mises]

From, of all places, the BBC...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7359513.stm

[ceesgetdegrees]

Sure, america is safe if you live in the suburbs. There most be some accounting for the 11000 + hand gun murders a year though, although if it's mostly minorities then it doesn't really matter does it.

[mises]

The article is about New York City and New Jersey, which is the most populous city and state (by sq/mi), respectively.

[ceesgetdegrees]

Thats great, i mean aside from the little fact that americans blow each other away more then any other industrialised country on the planet. sounds like an idyllic place to live.

[ED209]

For Christ's sake don't let the Brits in. Time to fake another terrorist attack and blame the Chavs.

[mises]

[Ya-ta Boy]

I once had a conversation with a petrified grandmother. She was going to be taking her 4 year old grandkid to the US to visit the kid's parents who were doing their graduate studies. She was absolutely convinced that she had to have a harness/leash thing or she'd never get through the airport without the kid getting kidnapped.

Violence and crime are serious problems in America but foreigners shouldn't be getting their ideas from movies and TV shows. But then, they shouldn't be taking their religious philosophy from Star Wars either.

[mises]

Yes, but most of this violence is highly concentrated in the ghettos. Don't go to the ghetto. The non-ghetto area of cities (95% of the city) is perfectly safe. The crime is hugely exaggerated. I recently met Swedish tourists (grown men) who won't leave their hotel after 8pm.

London, on the other hand, is in entirety a violent place. The part about gangs of drunk kids being absent in America and the norm in the UK is perfectly true.

[Justin Hale]

I disagree that London's violence and crime is quite that bad, but certainly it is more spread out and generalized than in the US. Another major difference is that UK violent street crime is so often alcohol-driven, a cultural alcohol/violence problem, whereas in the US I've personally observed nothing of the sort. Generally, the US not only feels far safer than the UK and with a much better, feelgood atmosphere, but is in every conceivable way a superior society and culture. It's all to do with the decline of Far Right nationalism and rise in feminazi liberalism and tyranny of the mediocre. The US has seen no such thing and this is a major factor.

[mises]

I exaggerated a tad. What are the major theories on why the British drink themselves to such disrepair? When compared with the French, Dutch and Americans the UK has a very low-class, crass and dangerous relationship with alcohol. Why?

[Pluto]

[mises]

Agreed. I'm in a minority-majority city and my experience mirrors yours.

[Big_Bird]

[Big_Bird]

[mises]

Self defense is basically against the law there. In the UK, there little chance of social or immediate consequence for crime. The criminal is playing the odds against the state, and the state is simply overwhelmed at the volume of crime.

In America, if you break into my house, I'll shoot your ass. No, I'll shoot your face. In the UK, if I so much as threw a stone at you, I'll get charged.

Maybe this is what Justin meant, maybe not. But the UK has removed the ability of the average citizen to protect his family, life and property.

For example, home invasions account for less than 10% of robberies while in the UK they are more than 50%. I wonder why? If I hear some guy robbing my yard or car, he's going to get shot (at?). In the UK, I'd call the cops and they likely wouldn't even show up.