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Zeus
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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| I used to watch "North of 60"... |
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aboxofchocolates
Joined: 21 Mar 2008
Location: on your mind
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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You're absolutely right. White people are responsible for First Nations/Natives/Indians/Aborigines behavior. What should all the non-FN/N/I/A do to help fix the atrocious living conditions found on and off so many reserves in this country? Would you like the us to throw more of our hard-earned tax dollars at you, so you can squander more of it? Would you like us to babysit the mothers who insist on drinking vast quantities of alcohol during their pregnancies? Would you like us to take over the runnings of governments on tribal lands, so that corrupt chiefs and councils don't spend all the money on themselves and their own families, while leaving everyone else scrambling for the crumbs? Would you like us to farm your land which is laying fallow next to working farming concerns? Would you like us to force you to take your children to school to get an education? Would you like us to make you work instead of going on welfare? Would you like us to magically stop you from commiting crimes so that you don't fill up the prisons?
I can see you are not capable of fixing your problems since you are so focused on living in the past. My great-great-grandfather starved during the potato family and my ancestors lived under the oppression of the British for centuries. I want them to admit their wrongdoing, because it is all their fault. |
it's interesting watching you dig yourself deeper and deeper into your hole.
give it up already. you're starting to sound pathetic. really. |
Where are all the wonderful natives, BTW? I would truly love to meet the ones who don't apply to what I said above. Where are these First Nations people? Really, where are they hiding? |
What, like the community leader that helped me out with my projects when I was in school? Or the musicians and community elders that came to my high school and taught us something outside the standard sphere of education. Or the kids I went to high school with, the adults I went to university with, the professors at my university?
All of these people had to deal with racism and oppression in my home town- I was there, I saw it. Their success is a testament to their strength of character, but the fact of the matter is not all people are super human. Not everybody prospers when their family, in living memory, has been killed, raped, beaten, and imprisoned under the sanction of their government. Sometimes, when the beatings and the name callings start in elementary school, you turn into a dick head. It takes a hell of a lot of guts to move beyond that when society admits the injustice of such actions on the one hand and then denies it happens to you on the other.
If you like arguing with anecdotal evidence, I am happy to oblige you to a point. But once you actually read the overwhelming evidence that indicates a lot of social problems in first nations communities stems from historical and ongoing racism, why the hell would you bother with small, petty arguments? If you don't like people's reaction to oppression, stop contributing to said oppression. Stop hate mongering. |
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MrsSeoul
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:14 am Post subject: |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
Location: Classified
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Ye cats! That's a whole gaggle of Canadians! That can't be right.... |
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Bagpipes11
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Canadians HAVE NOT learned since 2005. They WILL continute to lead the pack per arrests for working without visas. Canadians are one of the biggest reasons Korea is in a shithole. |
Hmm...this is typical Korean logic. 62 teachers out of 10,000 Canadians. Less than 0.01%. That is pretty drastic. You had better hire more people to catch more of these criminals.
Korean logic = 1. If it happened before 1945....blame Japan. 2. If it happened after 1945....blame America. 3. If "Mr Kim" the hogwon owning English guru cannot provide an environment where my kids can learn English fluently....blame Canada. 4. If I drink Soju everyday for 20 years and smoke 2 packs of THIS PLUS/day, then die in my sleep....blame the bedroom fan. |
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MrsSeoul
Joined: 31 May 2007
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kimchipig
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:22 pm Post subject: Mel Hurtig and His Bull-wiffle |
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I have been listening to Mel Hurtig spew his bull wiffle for as long as most of the posters here have been alive and he has made a ton of cash doing it.
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| In BC, the big unions have the general populace by the nuts. |
Not anymore they don't. A new bill even eliminates their Gordon Campbell hate ads. Campbell busted the unions in 2004 and even busted the teachers last year and it is clear sailing for him
Why are there so many Canadians in Korea? It is an easy, two word answer:
The Martimes.
Here in Vancouver, I can't even find someone to watch TV while "babysitting' my kids for $10 an hour cash under the dash. There is zero unemployment west of Manitoba. I can't for the life of me understand why Down Homers would work in Korea when everybody and his dog here is screaming for workers. I am trying to find two tutors and give them twelve hours of teaching EACH right now and all I get is resumes full of spelling mistakes from retards.
I have never understood Down Homers. Instead of staying in Canada and getting high paying work in other provinces, they go and sell themselves to hagwan owners who treat them like dirt. And they stay! Then they run back down home and spend every cent they saved from their servitude in LALALAND.
Most of the posters here are a lot younger than I am. I have some news: You are not going to make any real money until you are at least 35 years old and find your niche in life. You have never had it so good. When I was 25 years old unemployment was so bad in Canada that 10,000 (yes, it is true) people applied for jobs at a new CANADIAN TIRE!.
You are not going to make $60,000 a year fresh from university but after ten years or so, it is easy. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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this thread proves just one thing:
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MrsSeoul
Joined: 31 May 2007
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: Mel Hurtig and His Bull-wiffle |
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I have been listening to Mel Hurtig spew his bull wiffle for as long as most of the posters here have been alive and he has made a ton of cash doing it.
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| In BC, the big unions have the general populace by the nuts. |
Not anymore they don't. A new bill even eliminates their Gordon Campbell hate ads. Campbell busted the unions in 2004 and even busted the teachers last year and it is clear sailing for him
Why are there so many Canadians in Korea? It is an easy, two word answer:
The Martimes.
Here in Vancouver, I can't even find someone to watch TV while "babysitting' my kids for $10 an hour cash under the dash. There is zero unemployment west of Manitoba. I can't for the life of me understand why Down Homers would work in Korea when everybody and his dog here is screaming for workers. I am trying to find two tutors and give them twelve hours of teaching EACH right now and all I get is resumes full of spelling mistakes from retards.
I have never understood Down Homers. Instead of staying in Canada and getting high paying work in other provinces, they go and sell themselves to hagwan owners who treat them like dirt. And they stay! Then they run back down home and spend every cent they saved from their servitude in LALALAND.
Most of the posters here are a lot younger than I am. I have some news: You are not going to make any real money until you are at least 35 years old and find your niche in life. You have never had it so good. When I was 25 years old unemployment was so bad in Canada that 10,000 (yes, it is true) people applied for jobs at a new CANADIAN TIRE!.
You are not going to make $60,000 a year fresh from university but after ten years or so, it is easy. |
So, if I make $60,000 a year, and I pay 40% of it in taxes, EI, CPP, and I can't buy a house for less than $400,000, and I saved liked a mother and have $40,000 for a downpayment, my mortgage is $360,000, and child care costs over $1000/month for a crappy daycare.
Or I can work in Korea and make the same amount tax tax free, and have no house payment.
See what I'm saying? |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| http://youtube.com/watch?v=8_YNJnt-6lc Reality Check Canada |
Wow bunch of random facts.. How about we find a random fact stupid video of Korea..
Get lost troll. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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aboxofchocolates What, like the community leader that helped me out with my projects when I was in school? Or the musicians and community elders that came to my high school and taught us something outside the standard sphere of education. Or the kids I went to high school with, the adults I went to university with, the professors at my university?
All of these people had to deal with racism and oppression in my home town- I was there, I saw it. Their success is a testament to their strength of character, but the fact of the matter is not all people are super human. Not everybody prospers when their family, in living memory, has been killed, raped, beaten, and imprisoned under the sanction of their government. |
As you know, most rapes, murders, beatings that take place on an Indian reserve are Native on Native crimes. Or are you suggesting non-Natives are coming onto reserves and commiting crimes? As for imprisonment, are you suggesting Natives should not be prosecuted for their crimes? Well, as a matter of fact, it would outrage many Canadian to know that due to Native community sentencing guidelines, in many cases Natives DO have separate laws, similar to Sharia courts, which allow them to get lesser sentences or none at all.
Are you saying that Natives who make poor decisions should not be held responsible for their actions? That they should be let off the hook because they are not "super-human"? Sorry, I don't agree. It is that kind of enabling mentality, victim mentality, that is the problem.
When Natives start to hold each other accountable for the sorry state of Native culture, than maybe things will improve. Unfortunately, there are many intelligent, educated Natives who seem to spend their intellectual energy on living in the past, instead of trying to fix the alcoholism, violence, child abuse, and incest that is so rampant in Canadian Native culture.
The answers to Native problems won't be found by again scapegoating Canadians, especially since the one's responsible for the wrongs to Native culture are all dead. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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I think those throwing around the word Genocide need to get a grip on what that word means.
European diseases had a devastating effect on all North American First Nations people. However, Canada's actually fared a lot better than others, such as Mexico's. Historians believe that Mexico had about 15 million First Nations people before the Aztecs were conquered. It wasn't the Spanish that killed off 90% of those people, it was their diseases such as TB and smallpox.
In Canada, we first started out as trading partners with First Nations people. Yes, we did drop the ball on how we took their land, but using Genocide, when the Canadian government always went the way of treaties is misinforming and ignorant. Sure these treaties took advantage of the Natives in a bad way, but at least we didn't kill them right out, which is what genocide does.
Explaining Canadian First Nations history in a post such as this won't work. I suggest those who believe it was a genocide take a university level course in it.
I have taken a few such courses and can say it was not, nor has it ever been a genocide in Canada. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about the US. |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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I have taken a few such courses and can say it was not, nor has it ever been a genocide in Canada. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about the US. |
This is wrong. The British had a scalping proclamation against the Mi'kmaq. They paid something like 20 pounds for a male's scalp, and ten for that of a woman or child. Bounty hunters would do it for a living. Now, the only thing is that it wasn't "Canada" that did this, considering it was in the 1750s, but it was certainly the Canadian colonies. Purposeful destruction of a people with an intention to exterminate them is genocide. |
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