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[Omkara]

Isn't correct to say that quantium physics can predict, but must do so now in a statistical model? Something fundamentally changes in our understanding of causality. . .

Yes, Einstein may have been wrong on things; but it does not mean that a personal god exists or that believing in a personal god is not childish. For the second proposition, we need to examine psychological epistemology.

[ED209]

[Justin Hale]

Golly, that's hilarious, and so freaking true (as we know).

I've never done this before - I suppose that's because I was never so totally hostile to religion until quite recently (and always an agnostic) - but when I see my mother in less than 2 weeks, I'm going to thank her most sincerely and strongly for never feeding me any religion whatsoever and leaving it my choice.

[mnhnhyouh]

[Rteacher]

To set the record straight, most of the posters who've insulted and ridiculed my views regarding Krishna, Absolute Truth, consciousness, Vedic culture, or spiritual evolution have done so childishly without posing any serious intellectual challenge to their validity.

That's because the transcendental philosophy set forth in Bhagavad-gita is practically impossible to defeat.

Of course, my presentation is not always the best - which gives skeptics the chance to personally attack me while claiming to have won some "debate".

Anyway, the idea of a personal God can range from being childish (eg: primitive religions) to being very sophisticated (Bhagavad-gita)

Religion without philosophy is sentimentality (and leads to fanaticism)
Philosophy without religion is dry speculation.

Though I think his conception of God was far from perfect and his views on religion contradictory, Einstein did state that "science without religion is lame, while religion without science is blind".

His hang-up over a personal God seems to be that ultimately God would in effect be passing judgment on Himself.

He should have more carefully read Bhagavad-gita - the only scripture that's really needed for the whole world - in a version that faithfully conveyed the original message.

Here's what some other great thinkers (besides Einstein and myself ) have said:

"The Bhagavad-Gita has a profound influence on the spirit of mankind by its devotion to God which is manifested by actions." ~ Dr. Albert Schweizer.

"The Bhagavad-Gita is the most systematic statement of spiritual evolution of endowing value to mankind. It is one of the most clear and comprehensive summaries of perennial philosophy ever revealed; hence its enduring value is subject not only to India but to all of humanity."
~ Aldous Huxley

"The idea that man is like unto an inverted tree seems to have been current in by gone ages. The link with Vedic conceptions is provided by Plato in his Timaeus in which it states..." behold we are not an earthly but a heavenly plant." ~ Carl Jung

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad-Gita, in comparison with which our modern world and its literature seems puny and trivial." ~ Henry David Thoreau

"The marvel of the Bhagavad-Gita is its truly beautiful revelation of lifes wisdom which enables philosophy to blossom into religion." ~ Herman Hesse

"When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and I see not one ray of hope on the horizon, I turn to Bhagavad-Gita and find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. Those who meditate on the Gita will derive fresh joy and new meanings from it every day."
~ Mahatma Gandhi

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad-Gita. It was the first of books; it was as if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old intelligence which in another age and climate had pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which exercise us."

"The Bhagavad-Gita is an empire of thought and in its philosophical teachings Krishna has all the attributes of the full-fledged montheistic deity and at the same time the attributes of the Upanisadic absolute."
~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

"In order to approach a creation as sublime as the Bhagavad-Gita with full understanding it is necessary to attune our soul to it." ~ Rudolph Steiner

Rather than being childish, the personal conception of God entails his existing as an eternal child:

[Omkara]

RTeacher,

That a concept of God is sophisticated does not imply ontic reality any more than Hamlet's complexity does.

Yet, Hamlet reveals much of truth, of human reality.

Studying and exploring the beauty of the Gita is well worth time. I can understand your love for Krishna and Vedic Philosopy. I'm just more skeptical (not in a fearful way) of the claims made about Krishna, not the value of him.

[uberscheisse]

[Rteacher]

I think we can now safely rule out that "uberscheisse" is an incarnation of Einstein ...

[uberscheisse]

[Rteacher]

Actually, I'm probably lower than that - but as spirit-souls we're all equal.

I realize that I'm no better than you or anyone else, but I try to share what I've learned from a bona fide master of spiritual science - more expert at solving the real problems of existence than Einstein.

http://www.prabhupadaconnect.com/Our_Main_Principles.html

[Underwaterbob]