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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay - Wiki tells it all. Why would anyone say that Canada is still a colonia Britannica? WTFO?
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone ever been in a pig slaughterhouse? The pigs, which are just as intelligent as dogs, know something's up. Often pigs of different sizes are put together and the smaller ones spend their last hours being terrified by the larger ones. They often need to be moved with electric prods. Sometimes they're killed with pin-guns, but sometimes they're stunned with electricity which may or may not kill them at first. Even if it doesn't kill them, two hooks attached by a bar are driven through their ankles behind their Achilles tendons and they're hung up, possibly still breathing. Then their throats are slit and they're left to bleed to death, the blood collected for sausage, Vietnamese cuisine, or Chinese sauces.

I've seen it and, you know what? I still love bacon, ham, and galbi. If some ajeoshi loves boshingtang it's likely to be the least of my complaints about him.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Cultural Relativism is Just Dumb! Reply with quote

ReeseDog wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Geckoman wrote:
After all, they are still a colony of the UK and can�t even admit it to themselves.


Canadians don't admit that to themselves because it's not true. Canada is not a colony of the United Kingdom.


Wait - Canada IS independent, right? Surely she's not still one of Her Majesty's *ahem* protectorates, right? Confused


Are you actually proud to trot out ignorance? Canada is an independent nation. Try not to be so confused over the simple fact that the monarch of Canada happens to be the same individual who is the monarch of the United Kingdom.
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ReeseDog



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you on crack?

I should have put one of these in my post
Rolling Eyes


Is that better?

Tard.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not my fault you're a jerk.
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stevieg4ever



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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I volunteer at an animal shelter - the woman there (a korean) won't give stray animals to Koreans period - she claims she doesn't trust them. She has also lost friends because she has cats as pets and has campaigned all her life against the dog meat industry.

The shelter is itself funded by western countries as the Korean government won't provide any funding for them and the shelters are now trying to find people abroad who will adopt these animals. Very sad.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Not my fault you're a jerk.


Turning the other cheek?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Not my fault you're a jerk.


Turning the other cheek?


And my pet troll returns.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

And my pet troll returns.


Who Would Jesus Insult?
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Captain Corea



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've eaten dog meat about a dozen times in Korea. Most of those times were in restaurants in Gyyongi-do (near Indeogwon). In all of those cases I saw dogs housed on location in cages. In none of those cases did i worry about the dog. Just like I didn't worry about the chickens I ate, nor the pigs.

If I was to see evidence of gratuitous infliction of pain on any of the animals I ate, I would have walked out - I witnessed none.

I've seen many animals killed in my life and I still choose to eat meat. What I don't get is this; if people are so concerned with the possible abuses in how dogs are butchered here, why not lobby for THAT part of the industry to be cleaned up? Why is it always "eating dog meat is wrong!" ? Instead of "If you're going to eat dog meat, or any animal, please ensure that it's done in ... this way" ?

The truth is, I think people object to dog meat NOT because of the process per se, but rather because of cultural sensibilities towards dogs. Personally, I find that the weakest of arguments here.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
CentralCali wrote:

And my pet troll returns.


Who Would Jesus Insult?


Liars. You know, like you.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

Liars. You know, like you.


People like you almost make me wish there was a god, just to see the looks on your faces when you got up there and got the bad news.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I've eaten dog meat about a dozen times in Korea. Most of those times were in restaurants in Gyyongi-do (near Indeogwon). In all of those cases I saw dogs housed on location in cages. In none of those cases did i worry about the dog. Just like I didn't worry about the chickens I ate, nor the pigs.

If I was to see evidence of gratuitous infliction of pain on any of the animals I ate, I would have walked out - I witnessed none.

I've seen many animals killed in my life and I still choose to eat meat. What I don't get is this; if people are so concerned with the possible abuses in how dogs are butchered here, why not lobby for THAT part of the industry to be cleaned up? Why is it always "eating dog meat is wrong!" ? Instead of "If you're going to eat dog meat, or any animal, please ensure that it's done in ... this way" ?

The truth is, I think people object to dog meat NOT because of the process per se, but rather because of cultural sensibilities towards dogs. Personally, I find that the weakest of arguments here.


So very true. I'm sure that if pigs were cute and cuddly and tried to please us as pets people would be condemning pork-eaters for supporting animal cruelty.
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sineface



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
I've eaten dog meat about a dozen times in Korea. Most of those times were in restaurants in Gyyongi-do (near Indeogwon). In all of those cases I saw dogs housed on location in cages. In none of those cases did i worry about the dog. Just like I didn't worry about the chickens I ate, nor the pigs.

If I was to see evidence of gratuitous infliction of pain on any of the animals I ate, I would have walked out - I witnessed none.

I've seen many animals killed in my life and I still choose to eat meat. What I don't get is this; if people are so concerned with the possible abuses in how dogs are butchered here, why not lobby for THAT part of the industry to be cleaned up? Why is it always "eating dog meat is wrong!" ? Instead of "If you're going to eat dog meat, or any animal, please ensure that it's done in ... this way" ?

The truth is, I think people object to dog meat NOT because of the process per se, but rather because of cultural sensibilities towards dogs. Personally, I find that the weakest of arguments here.


Animal rights organisations are most certainly not centering their campaigns around "Awwwww look at Rover. Isn't he cute? Please don't eat him, that would be bad."

Is it a reason why some people object? Absolutely. Is it the strongest opposition against it? Well, clearly not. The reason you most commonly hear "Eating dog meat is wrong" is because the industry does not exist without the tortuous slaughter techinques they use. The way they are killed and the reason they are killed in the first place are inextricably linked, and so yes, because the eating of dog meat necessiatates such horrific practices, thus, eating dog meat is wrong.

According to believers, eating dog meat without the due process of releasing the adrenaline into the meat through the boiling, the beating, the skinning alive, is pointless. Therefore, though I'm quite sure this point is incapable of being understood by many people here, the argument that you can clean up the industry and remove the torture is a moot point.

Over and out.
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sineface



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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
I've eaten dog meat about a dozen times in Korea. Most of those times were in restaurants in Gyyongi-do (near Indeogwon). In all of those cases I saw dogs housed on location in cages. In none of those cases did i worry about the dog. Just like I didn't worry about the chickens I ate, nor the pigs.

If I was to see evidence of gratuitous infliction of pain on any of the animals I ate, I would have walked out - I witnessed none.

I've seen many animals killed in my life and I still choose to eat meat. What I don't get is this; if people are so concerned with the possible abuses in how dogs are butchered here, why not lobby for THAT part of the industry to be cleaned up? Why is it always "eating dog meat is wrong!" ? Instead of "If you're going to eat dog meat, or any animal, please ensure that it's done in ... this way" ?

The truth is, I think people object to dog meat NOT because of the process per se, but rather because of cultural sensibilities towards dogs. Personally, I find that the weakest of arguments here.


So very true. I'm sure that if pigs were cute and cuddly and tried to please us as pets people would be condemning pork-eaters for supporting animal cruelty.


Pigs are cute. Pigs are cuddly. Tons of people have pigs as pets. And, I am quite sure, if there was an unregulated industry allowing any Tom Dick or Harry to beat them and peel their skin off for no reason, we would have a similar problem on our hands. LAZY argument, guys.
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