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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

superdave wrote:
quick question, how much are people receiving on pension refunds??

i'm counting down my last year, after 6 years, and our pension agreement kicks in this june.

i wonder whether anyone is prepared to 'ballpark' annual pension returns. $1500? $2000? is it even that high?

i'm only asking, cause i know that employers have to match workers 1:1. so i'd assume i get that money back too.


The pension 'refund' is 9% of your earnings (your 4.5% plus the employer's 4.5%). On a monthly salary of W2.4 million, this works out to W2,592,000 per annum.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if you worked at schools all in different neighborhoods? When you go to file for your pension before you leave, will you have to go to the pension office in all of the different areas where you worked, or can you just go to one pension office near the place where you are currently working? I don't want to go to 3 different pension offices. Rolling Eyes
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thiophene



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I've read you should be contributing 4.5% into pension, but according to my statement I'm paying only 50,060 on 2.1mil for about 90 hours a month. I also pay tax of 13,310 which I'm pretty sure is too low. I'm on an f4 visa, is there a loophole I'm not aware of? If my math is correct, I should be paying 94,500 into pension. Many thanks.
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Sushi



Joined: 24 Apr 2008
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why can't the teachers Union that is being formed petition government to police all English Institutes as to wether or not they offer the national pension. On top of that there would have to be some insurance that correct contributions were being made by the employer.

Some smaller companies actually ask their employees if they want to be included in the national pension. The more honest ones would actually explain the benefits available or not should they choose not to join. Those show a modicum of honesty even though by law everyone has to be incuded in the scheme.

There are some schools that offer the plan only to those who are eligible to recieve a payout.


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kiwiduncan



Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Good News for Australians! Reply with quote

bulldogbill wrote:
The relative Korean and Austalian Tax authorities have just agreed to make the pensions paid by Australians refundable...more info on the Australian Embasy website...it does not come into effect until July 2008, but will be retrospective!
Good to get a win for a change.


That's great for the Aussies, but has anyone heard any rumours of similar negotiations between the UK and Korean governments or the Kiwi and Korean governments?

I must have about 3 years' worth of payments so I'd love to get it back some day.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just read through the 7 current pages in this thread and have a few questions:

1. I am changing jobs and my employer will pay into a private pension fund. I have worked 2 years in Korea in the national pension fund. I want to get my money. I've heard that you can only receive a refund from the national fund if you leave Korea for good, not if you are just switching to a private pension fund. Is this true?

2. Assuming #1 is true, and I still want my money, I hear I can bring a one-way ticket to the pension office for a refund. I will leave the country for a few days, but come back. Is there any penalty for doing this?

3. My job ends in August. When is the earliest I can request my pension refund? Can I go in June? July? If I go early, when can I expect the money in my home country bank account?

4. Has anyone presented a one-way ferry ticket to the pension office before, like to Fukuoka, Japan?

Cheers, BB
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know how useful this may be for anyone, but Reedtea & I just went to apply for her pension @ the Anyang office today -

1) Galbijim wiki has basic directions to most of the offices. For the Anyang one (should you choose to go there), however, it is across the street/highway from the bus stop. Smile

2) C. took her 1-way e-ticket reservation, alien reg card, passport, & banking info with her.

3) The clerk asked which country, then pulled out a 5-page form Shocked (bilingual), but only asked her to 'do' about 1 page of actual writing/fill-in work.

4) The important stuff! the last pension contribution WILL be subtracted from your last paycheck. This takes time. In her case, her last paycheck would be on the 25th; the Pension office said they should receive the funds by the 10th of the next month, and then about 1 week of paperwork time, to process the payment.

5) the choices were to deposit funds into a Korean bank account, or a US account (in her case), or to have a check mailed out to an address. You can also choose the currency for remittance (major currencies).

6) That being said, the clerk also said to deposit the money, in KRW, into a Korean bank, would be faster, BUT! she wanted to be sure we could access/withdraw the money in that case.

7) Based upon your ticket out of Korea, the Pension office WILL check to see that you actually leave. I do not know if that means that they will co-ordinate this somehow with Immigration and/or Labor, but she SAID 'we will check to be sure you left the country' - make of that what you will.

Now, after all this was done, we found out that C's Uni is NOT part of the national Pension Fund - they, like many, use a private pension fund. The clerk was nice enough to call on C's behalf - only to find out that her employer (C.'s Uni) will have to 'notify the fund, and apply for her' - which brings up a whole new set of issues best addressed in another thread.

Regards,

G.
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missionshk



Joined: 09 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

can anyone tell me how to check the amount or balance of my account online?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

missionshk wrote:
can anyone tell me how to check the amount or balance of my account online?


Just give them a call with your alien card number.

I used to call 02-2240-1083~5, but the last time I tried that they told me that the number changed. Even if you do call, they'll give you the correct number or transfer you.

There's also 1355 (maybe you have to be in Seoul to dial that - it's the helpline for foreigners).

Head office's number is 02-2240-1114. It's in Jamsil.

You can check for different locations and directions to the closest office to you at http://www.nps.or.kr/
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sleepygrlozz



Joined: 06 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi guys~
one quick question...how does the pension office check if you really left the country?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sleepygrlozz wrote:
hi guys~
one quick question...how does the pension office check if you really left the country?


They call immigration. Or they check with them somehow. That's what I was told. I guess they could call the airline, too.

Good question though. I wonder if they really do check.

I was told that the pension money would be sent to my account next Wednesday (the 18th) and I applied for it on the 10th (this past Tuesday). I was given a little hassle about my return flight being same-day, but the young woman there did some checking and my plane ticket was approved. They can't process it until they know I have left the country. I'll be leaving and coming back on Friday. I guess it doesn't take long for them to get the money to your account. I was kind of perplexed about when people say it takes 4 or 5 weeks. Heard other people have gotten it in a week.

The deal is that they can't process it and wire it to your account until you leave. That must be why some people don't get theirs for a while. They show a ticket that leaves 3 or 4 weeks later, but they have to leave first. It's waiting for the departure that delays getting it.
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sleepygrlozz



Joined: 06 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
sleepygrlozz wrote:
hi guys~
one quick question...how does the pension office check if you really left the country?


They call immigration. Or they check with them somehow. That's what I was told. I guess they could call the airline, too.

Good question though. I wonder if they really do check.

I was told that the pension money would be sent to my account next Wednesday (the 18th) and I applied for it on the 10th (this past Tuesday). I was given a little hassle about my return flight being same-day, but the young woman there did some checking and my plane ticket was approved. They can't process it until they know I have left the country. I'll be leaving and coming back on Friday. I guess it doesn't take long for them to get the money to your account. I was kind of perplexed about when people say it takes 4 or 5 weeks. Heard other people have gotten it in a week.

The deal is that they can't process it and wire it to your account until you leave. That must be why some people don't get theirs for a while. They show a ticket that leaves 3 or 4 weeks later, but they have to leave first. It's waiting for the departure that delays getting it.


Thanks a lot!! Wink
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Firearcher



Joined: 22 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:56 am    Post subject: ok Reply with quote

ok

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ben_and_bree



Joined: 19 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Aussies and Pension Reply with quote

Hi,

As an Aussie recently returned to Oz I have been following this talk of new rules for Aussies and pension.

I just got off the phone with Centrelink and they told me that the plan will not be implemented until the 1st of October 2008.

BUT!!

You will only be able to claim it once you actually retire for good, when you are about 60 or so.

Being 28 I found this distressing especially considering that my American wife got hers deposited into our account shortly after we left and she is NOT in her 60's.

Does this gel with anything that other people have found out? Centrelink is reknowned for giving you a different answer each time you ask a question.

Cheers,

Ben
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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Re: Not Paying Pension Reply with quote

Firearcher wrote:
I am just finishing my 12 month contract and apparently my Hawgwon HAS NOT contributed ANYTHING to my pension. ZERO. Is that legal? What are my options/recourse?

Can the hawgwon be forced to give me that pension money? And where do I go and who do I talk to? Cheongju has an Immigration office. Can I go there?



Does your hagwon have more than 5 employees? Did they withhold some of your money and do you have a payslip? DO NOT GO TO IMMIGRATON, GO TO THE PENSION OFFICE.
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