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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| dmbfan wrote: |
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| 7. Learn how to spell. |
See that thing sticking out of your arss? OK...now, reach around and pull it out.
There now, doesn't that feel better?
dmbfan |
Do you mean ass or arse? Either way, lighten up. Just having a little fun. That is what this little symbol  usually indicates. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you mean ass or arse? Either way, lighten up. Just having a little fun. That is what this little symbol usually indicates. |
I did not know the mods lightened up on certain vocabulary words.
Well, if you enjoy going through threads and looking for spelling mistakes...well..............live and let live, I guess.
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Grab the Chickens Levi
Joined: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Ilsan
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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Think of the number of countries with nukes. Then think how many of those countries have long range capabilities. ATM I am pretty sure only Russia and America have intercontinentals.
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And what about Europe, like the UK? |
Yes we have 'em. Hey maybe in event of nuke war, other countries thinking we don't have 'em might give us the edge to get in a sneaky pre-emptive attack! Nice. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The US couldn't even help their own people in New Orleans before, during and after Hurricane Katrina...do you really think they're competent enough to handle mass evacuations in a time of global war? |
Here we go........
So tell me something. Did you actually pay attention to what happened? Did you do any research beyond the garbage CNN fed you. If so, you would have known.....
1. That the city of New Orleans WAS warned about Katrina.
2. The city of New Orleans was NOT prepared and did NOTHING in
regards to secruing the levies...or levy/s.
3. The state and federal government arranged buses to evactuate people,
but the "good man" Jessy Jackson stood ujp on his hypocrite soap
box and stated "Putting those people on the buses is the same as
putting them on slave ships and sending them to the new world".
4. Katrina was a Category 3 hurricane when it hit.......not a category 5.
5. The National Gaurd was assembled and Deployed within days of the
strom making land fall...............not really an easy thing, to assemble
deploy and move thousands upon thousands of troops....in an area
that s under water?
6. There were quite a few dumb asses who refused to leave, despite the
warnings.
But, it is easy to jump on the "ignorant bandwagon" and blame Bush, and make statements about how the U.S. could not do anything.
dmbfan |
Absolute Bullshit!
You're the one obviously getting your info from CNN and other mainstream pro-neocon/Bush media outlets...
Just a couple of days ago the documentary Katrina: Anatomy of a Disaster was on the Australia Network (It's American, so I'm sure it's available somewhere else ...); the levels of incompetence, ineptitude, wilful negligence, and complete lack of preparation shown when New Orleans had at least 3 days notice of a Level 5 hurricane (it was level 3 when it crossed southern Florida...) hitting the city was criminal!
Interviews - backed up with visual, written, and internet/e-mail records - with many of the principals involved in tracking the storm, and issuing warnings, all show a total lack of organization, planning, contingency assessments and consolidation of resources that if taken seriously - while not saving everything or everyone - would most certainly have seriously lessened the impact...
And, following the disaster, the US 'Govt.' reverted right back to the same policies regarding physical barriers and engineering solutions that led to the problem in the first place: the installation of (only) Level 3 'protections'. They simply don't care about the people there...and will not spend anything like the money necessary to fix things properly...in fact, a number of govt. officials think New Orleans should simply be abandoned and the people sent 'elsewhere'. Typical neocon thinking!
Finally, for now, what about the absolute nihilism and societal breakdown that occurred right after the storm. The cops ran away, the people were left utterly alone to fend for themselves, and when the forces of 'law and order' (HAH!) finally did venture forth, who were the vanguard? The psycho thugs of Blackwater...!
So spare me the doctrinaire neocon BS and Bushevik apologia...no amount of pro-US govt. propaganda can hide the fact that - in the case of Katrina - the US Govt. FAILED its people miserably!
If you think they're going to demonstrate any more competence in helping their citizens ANYWHERE in the case of a NBC crisis , you're sorely deluded. |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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...and will not spend anything like the money necessary to fix things properly...in fact, a number of govt. officials think New Orleans should simply be abandoned and the people sent 'elsewhere'. Typical neocon thinking!
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Not unreasonable. Why develop NO if it's only going to be inundated by more storms and a rise in sea level anyway? Better to make some parks/marsh in the lowland areas and forget reconstruction. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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...and will not spend anything like the money necessary to fix things properly...in fact, a number of govt. officials think New Orleans should simply be abandoned and the people sent 'elsewhere'. Typical neocon thinking!
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Not unreasonable. Why develop NO if it's only going to be inundated by more storms and a rise in sea level anyway? Better to make some parks/marsh in the lowland areas and forget reconstruction. |
I would tend to agree, as it was shown in the documentary that the ongoing creation of the wetlands around New Orleans - that resulted from the silt deposits laid down by the Mississippi in spate - actually protected the city far better from storm surges (which caused the most destruction in Katrina; the surge water that crested in Bay City, on the coast NE of NO was nearly 30 feet above sea level...) than any man made system.
Unfortunately, the wetlands around NO have shrunk alarmingly, and continue to disappear at the rate of a football-sized field every day. It is calculated that to resore the original wetlands area would take about 50-60 years...
So, perhaps moving many people from the lower lying areas (9th Ward, Jefferson Parish etc...) might be a practical idea. My main concern here, tho' is that, in typical neocon fashion, compensation, assistance and provisions for the future settlement and welfare of the displaced is not even being realistically examined; just a general 'let them eat cake' approach seems to prevail. |
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Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| dmbfan wrote: |
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| The US couldn't even help their own people in New Orleans before, during and after Hurricane Katrina...do you really think they're competent enough to handle mass evacuations in a time of global war? |
Here we go........
So tell me something. Did you actually pay attention to what happened? Did you do any research beyond the garbage CNN fed you. If so, you would have known.....
1. That the city of New Orleans WAS warned about Katrina.
2. The city of New Orleans was NOT prepared and did NOTHING in
regards to secruing the levies...or levy/s.
3. The state and federal government arranged buses to evactuate people,
but the "good man" Jessy Jackson stood ujp on his hypocrite soap
box and stated "Putting those people on the buses is the same as
putting them on slave ships and sending them to the new world".
4. Katrina was a Category 3 hurricane when it hit.......not a category 5.
5. The National Gaurd was assembled and Deployed within days of the
strom making land fall...............not really an easy thing, to assemble
deploy and move thousands upon thousands of troops....in an area
that s under water?
6. There were quite a few dumb asses who refused to leave, despite the
warnings.
But, it is easy to jump on the "ignorant bandwagon" and blame Bush, and make statements about how the U.S. could not do anything.
dmbfan |
Absolute Bullshit!
You're the one obviously getting your info from CNN and other mainstream pro-neocon/Bush media outlets...
Just a couple of days ago the documentary Katrina: Anatomy of a Disaster was on the Australia Network (It's American, so I'm sure it's available somewhere else ...); the levels of incompetence, ineptitude, wilful negligence, and complete lack of preparation shown when New Orleans had at least 3 days notice of a Level 5 hurricane (it was level 3 when it crossed southern Florida...) hitting the city was criminal!
Interviews - backed up with visual, written, and internet/e-mail records - with many of the principals involved in tracking the storm, and issuing warnings, all show a total lack of organization, planning, contingency assessments and consolidation of resources that if taken seriously - while not saving everything or everyone - would most certainly have seriously lessened the impact...
And, following the disaster, the US 'Govt.' reverted right back to the same policies regarding physical barriers and engineering solutions that led to the problem in the first place: the installation of (only) Level 3 'protections'. They simply don't care about the people there...and will not spend anything like the money necessary to fix things properly...in fact, a number of govt. officials think New Orleans should simply be abandoned and the people sent 'elsewhere'. Typical neocon thinking!
Finally, for now, what about the absolute nihilism and societal breakdown that occurred right after the storm. The cops ran away, the people were left utterly alone to fend for themselves, and when the forces of 'law and order' (HAH!) finally did venture forth, who were the vanguard? The psycho thugs of Blackwater...!
So spare me the doctrinaire neocon BS and Bushevik apologia...no amount of pro-US govt. propaganda can hide the fact that - in the case of Katrina - the US Govt. FAILED its people miserably!
If you think they're going to demonstrate any more competence in helping their citizens ANYWHERE in the case of a NBC crisis , you're sorely deluded. |
It's good to know you were on the ground there and could give us un-biased first hand accounts of what happened. Not to mention all the literature you've read and simply forgot to mention.
You could blame Mayor Naggin for lack of preperation....not the federal government. He never struck me as a particulary "responsible" politician.
Also, New Orleans wasn't exactly the greatest spot from a city.....I'd rank it near Pompeii italy.....only a matter of time before the big one hit.
I can't see why they would rebuild it either.....they could rebuild it elsewhere...above sea level. The city itself wasn't exactly prosperous despite a robust tourist industry(unless I'm mistaken, maybe something can chime in), so it's not like it was vital aside the ports. |
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maddog
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:04 am Post subject: |
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I think a nuclear exchange on the Korean peninsula could quickly trun global. America would obviously side with SK, and China with the NORKs. Then Russia and Western Europe would get involved. Next, various countries in the middle-East would wage war on eachother while the global peace-keepers were otherwise pre-occupied.
It's a big ole sh!t sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take bite! |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Absolute Bullshit!
You're the one obviously getting your info from CNN and other mainstream pro-neocon/Bush media outlets...
Just a couple of days ago the documentary Katrina: Anatomy of a Disaster was on the Australia Network (It's American, so I'm sure it's available somewhere else ...); the levels of incompetence, ineptitude, wilful negligence, and complete lack of preparation shown when New Orleans had at least 3 days notice of a Level 5 hurricane (it was level 3 when it crossed southern Florida...) hitting the city was criminal!
Interviews - backed up with visual, written, and internet/e-mail records - with many of the principals involved in tracking the storm, and issuing warnings, all show a total lack of organization, planning, contingency assessments and consolidation of resources that if taken seriously - while not saving everything or everyone - would most certainly have seriously lessened the impact...
And, following the disaster, the US 'Govt.' reverted right back to the same policies regarding physical barriers and engineering solutions that led to the problem in the first place: the installation of (only) Level 3 'protections'. They simply don't care about the people there...and will not spend anything like the money necessary to fix things properly...in fact, a number of govt. officials think New Orleans should simply be abandoned and the people sent 'elsewhere'. Typical neocon thinking!
Finally, for now, what about the absolute nihilism and societal breakdown that occurred right after the storm. The cops ran away, the people were left utterly alone to fend for themselves, and when the forces of 'law and order' (HAH!) finally did venture forth, who were the vanguard? The psycho thugs of Blackwater...!
So spare me the doctrinaire neocon BS and Bushevik apologia...no amount of pro-US govt. propaganda can hide the fact that - in the case of Katrina - the US Govt. FAILED its people miserably!
If you think they're going to demonstrate any more competence in helping their citizens ANYWHERE in the case of a NBC crisis , you're sorely deluded. |
LOL!
Whatever floats your boat, man.
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| Head down to Busan. Any nork nukes bound to be small. Catch a freighter down australia way. America, europe, china, Russia, all gone. Long live the new flesh. |
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