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[Julius]

How pathetic and selfish are the Chinese government? Obviously there are no limits when it comes to making deals with brutal dictatorships- just so long as they get access to cheap resources.

Is there any chance of China ever becoming a responsible world power?

The Zimbabwean government has confirmed that 3-million rounds of assault rifle ammunition, 3000 mortar rounds and 1500 rocket-propelled grenades - ordered from the Chinese government - have arrived in Harare.
http://www.zwnews.com/issuefull.cfm?ArticleID=18790

Very timely for Mugabe- who has just renewed his campaign of violence against his people as revenge for daring to try and oust him at the recent elections:
Violence 'Shocks' SA Generals
Senior members of the investigating team said their findings were "alarming" and that most of the violence was state sponsored, although the opposition had also retaliated.

"What we have heard and seen is shocking. We have heard horrific stories of extreme brutality and seen the victims,"
http://allafrica.com/stories/200805140020.html

[Gopher]

I strongly disagree with transplanting the hostile and sensationalist, allegation-driven antiAmerican discourse, designed to dangle faults and shortcomings, shame and humiliate, etc., etc., to the Chinese govt.

The Chinese govt has its own interests in world affairs. What are they? Find out what they are. See how they might conflict with your own (what are yours, by the way, "the people of the world's common/universal good?" Laughable if so.). Go about stating the differences in a professional, constructive way, chose the battles that you can win, etc., etc.

I expect this to produce your or another poster's shouting me down. C'est la vie.

[mises]

The timing of this shipment is worrying and China ought not have done it. Mugabe and China are in bed together, as have so many states before, and there is little we can do about it.

But Gopher, why do you get all upset about a post that finally has nothing to do with 1) America or 2) muslims? A little diversity on this site ain't all bad.

Anyways, you're right. The "global village" crew are taking their platitudes about America and substituting in China.

[Julius]

[JMO]

They aren't the first major world government to sell arms to brutal dictators.

Gopher, I think its akay to condemn a government for selling arms to Mugabe. Julius, you should grow up and realise there is no such thing as a responsible world power.

[Julius]

[JMO]

[Julius]

[Gopher]

Same, unoriginal trope; same, unoriginal delivery: merchants-of-death! Where is the independent thinking and analysis here?

[Quack Addict]

Is Zimbabwe at war? Who are they fighting? Oh yeah, they will be shooting their own people...nice. Mugabe needs some South African justice...a burning tire wrapped around his neck.

[Julius]

-so britain sells weapons to the peaceful country of Tanzania. And?

Lets look at the inhuman regimes China supplies: Iran, North Korea, libya, Syria, etc etc.

I'm sorry but its obvious that they are stooping far lower than the west. They happily hand over machine guns to madmen. Because they are a racist nationalistic power, with zero concern or responsibility to the world outside their borders. The real price of all that cheap lumber, minerals and metals is tortured and mutilated people in far away countries.

[JMO]

[JMO]

http://www.caat.org.uk/publications/countries/zimbabwe-0900.php

another article on UK arms exports to Zimbabwe which continued until 2000.

[Julius]

[JMO]