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nolegirl
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Are there alot of natives in Canada? In the US they make up .001% of
the population. I have been to the Seminole reserve many times in Ft. Lauderdale, thats where the Hard Rock hotel and casino is... and Anna
Nicloe Smith's ghost is..whoooo. I have never actually seen a Native American and if I have I sure as hell didn't know it. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares they are only indians. Most of them will be in jail or unemployed anyway.
I rather see mexicans in Canada then Native Indians. At least Mexicans fucking work. |
interesting the number of skinheads on Dave's these days.  |
If I were a skin head then i would hate mexicans as well.
I was never a racist until my family got involved with native indians, I have a lot of relations with the native community, I had to live amongst them and frankly it was a fucking nightmare. Thank god I escaped that shit when I had the chance.
From my experiences I can safely say that they are dirty, lazy, unmotivated, unethical and amoral, substance abusers and very racist. I can't stand most of my own family. The sooner they disapear THE BETTER. Natives are the equivalent of the DoDo bird. I can barely stand my own half sister, I hate her father to the core. |
Odd, the Natives I worked and lived along side with were of all sorts, good and bad.
Apparently I had better luck than you (?)
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Instead of ranting about genocide and arguing whether it is so or not, how about start getting informed and pissed off at the current situation that Canada's aboriginals have to live with. |
Total agreement. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares they are only indians. Most of them will be in jail or unemployed anyway.
I rather see mexicans in Canada then Native Indians. At least Mexicans fucking work. |
interesting the number of skinheads on Dave's these days. |
If I were a skin head then i would hate mexicans as well.
I was never a racist until my family got involved with native indians, I have a lot of relations with the native community, I had to live amongst them and frankly it was a fucking nightmare. Thank god I escaped that shit when I had the chance.
From my experiences I can safely say that they are dirty, lazy, unmotivated, unethical and amoral, substance abusers and very racist. I can't stand most of my own family. The sooner they disapear THE BETTER. Natives are the equivalent of the DoDo bird. I can barely stand my own half sister, I hate her father to the core. |
Actually RACETRAITOR is the only real skinhead. He's mostly into that Rudeboy Ska Reggea stuff. He actually looks more like a mod than a skin.
He has a close cut crewcut and wears one of those Andy Cap hats. He's about one of the furthest thing you would get from a facist. His nickname is just a sarcastic joke.
He's involved in the whole Skunk Hell punk scene. He also really knows his music particularly old school ska the music of the original skinheads
from 1969. |
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Quack Addict
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Odd, the Natives I worked and lived along side with were of all sorts, good and bad.
Apparently I had better luck than you (?) |
This goes across the board. I've had native american friends. They went to college, don't drink and are very decent. Then there is the other spectrum. You can't judge 'races' of people by the few you know. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Are there alot of natives in Canada? In the US they make up .001% of
the population. I have been to the Seminole reserve many times in Ft. Lauderdale, thats where the Hard Rock hotel and casino is... and Anna
Nicloe Smith's ghost is..whoooo. I have never actually seen a Native American and if I have I sure as hell didn't know it. |
You sure about that 0.001%?
I think there are about 3 to 4 million natives in the US, which would be around 1%. States like Alaska, New Mexico and Hawaii probably have a large percentage of natives
In Canada the number is around 1.5 million, around 3% of the population. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| nolegirl wrote: |
| I have never actually seen a Native American and if I have I sure as hell didn't know it. |
I certainly have. I've worked with Osage, Cherokee, Hopi, and Navajo. Solid people, if a bit swervy with the booze.
It doesn't make them bad. |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| nolegirl wrote: |
Are there alot of natives in Canada? In the US they make up .001% of
the population. I have been to the Seminole reserve many times in Ft. Lauderdale, thats where the Hard Rock hotel and casino is... and Anna
Nicloe Smith's ghost is..whoooo. I have never actually seen a Native American and if I have I sure as hell didn't know it. |
You sure about that 0.001%?
I think there are about 3 to 4 million natives in the US, which would be around 1%. States like Alaska, New Mexico and Hawaii probably have a large percentage of natives
In Canada the number is around 1.5 million, around 3% of the population. |
Would be better if it was .00003% of Canadian population |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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OP,
This is an excellent post. It's a crime what the Canadians do to the poor seals. I feel so bad for them. The seals have feelings. The government of Canada needs to stop the tom-foolery and fix the problem.
Canada's Seal Hunt: "Unacceptably Inhumane"
"The Canadian government insists that the seal hunt is an animal production industry like any other. They say that it might not be pretty, but basically it is just like any abattoir except on the ice. But we found obvious levels of suffering which would not be tolerated in any other animal industry in the world."
Ian Robinson, British Veterinarian |
I fail to see what the seal hunt, which happens hundreds nay thousands of Km from most Canadians, has to do with immigration to Korea for work. I'm here because I want to be a teacher in Canada and since none of the Universities are letting anyone in without experience I figured I'd be better off here for a year or 2 rather than sitting in a call center rotting and bothering people for 10$ an hour. As for Dr.'s... out east there aren't as many Dr.'s as there should be, but there aren't as many people in the maritimes as there are in Ontario (which is why we have Harper who wants to take Canada from the Social-Democracy that it is and make it more "American" especially when it comes to our health care) so that makes it a little more even when it comes to seeing someone quickly. There are times where the wait is annoyingly long in out patients but with the economy the way it is all over the world Dr.'s are going to go where they can get paid enough to pay off loans and live comfortably... So are teachers. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| Canadians HAVE NOT learned since 2005. They WILL continute to lead the pack per arrests for working without visas. Canadians are one of the biggest reasons Korea is in a shithole. |
Hmm...this is typical Korean logic. 62 teachers out of 10,000 Canadians. Less than 0.01%. That is pretty drastic. You had better hire more people to catch more of these criminals.
Korean logic = 1. If it happened before 1945....blame Japan. 2. If it happened after 1945....blame America. 3. If "Mr Kim" the hogwon owning English guru cannot provide an environment where my kids can learn English fluently....blame Canada. 4. If I drink Soju everyday for 20 years and smoke 2 packs of THIS PLUS/day, then die in my sleep....blame the bedroom fan. |
"Blame CANADA!" Korea isn't a bad place because of any one culture. You can't say "it's the Canadians fault" that doesn't make sense... there are plenty of Americans and Europeans here too. Unless we're just playing blame whitie like a lot of African North Americans do. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:09 am Post subject: It's not the natives, It's not the seals, It's not the snow |
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Canadians are not coming here because of the Indians (Native Canadian [Aboriginal] or Immigrated from India), or the seal hunt; most of us really don't care about it one way or another (in my experience), or the snow... in fact some of us fine it really warm in Korea and wouldn't mind a nice 20 degree day once in a while rather than 30+ haze of smog.
We are here either because we love teaching and want to pad our resume or we couldn't find decent work in Canada, or both. Sure it sucks that you have to pay for a Dr. In some parts of Canada, depending on the day you can wait hours... but it has nothing to do with the DR.'s it has to do with the volume of patients. If there are 100 sick people and 2 Dr.s it doesn't matter where you are it's gonna be a while and they treat each case based on severity. I've waited an hour in a Korean hospital just to be told I'd have to wait another 3 for a specialist for my ear infection. In Canada there always seems to be a DR. when your turn is up... maybe I'm spoiled from being in one of the poorest provinces for 24 years of my life.
Some of the trouble in Korea may be caused by Canadians... but I doubt that it's only us doing the damage. Also the ones who came without proper documentation are no longer in Korea and it is the Hagwons' responsibility to make sure that the teacher is properly documented before hiring him or her. If Canada was that big a problem the borders would be closed to Canuck ESL teachers... but they aren't.
It's mostly a matter of money. Most of us can make $2000 a month, send $1000 home and live comfortably here in Korea while paying off loans and debts back home. We have to work 110 hour months to compensate for something that would take 200 hours back home per month. It's a small step down in some respects from where a lot of us are from but a step up in other ways. In Korea if you don't speak Korean someone will help you somehow... if you don't speak French in Quebec (Can) you can look forward to being hungry or killed. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: Re: It's not the natives, It's not the seals, It's not the s |
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| In Korea if you don't speak Korean someone will help you somehow... if you don't speak French in Quebec (Can) you can look forward to being hungry or killed. |
 Remind me to never visit Quebec. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: Re: It's not the natives, It's not the seals, It's not the s |
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| In Korea if you don't speak Korean someone will help you somehow... if you don't speak French in Quebec (Can) you can look forward to being hungry or killed. |
:shock: Remind me to never visit Quebec. |
It's not really a matter of life or death... I'm exaggerating. It's more a matter of the better French you speak the more help you will find in a lot of the smaller French cities. Montreal is pretty much bi lingual |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: It's not the natives, It's not the seals, It's not the s |
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| In Korea if you don't speak Korean someone will help you somehow... if you don't speak French in Quebec (Can) you can look forward to being hungry or killed. |
Remind me to never visit Quebec. |
More chance of getting killed in Montreal. When a punk concert has been canceled |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: It's not the natives, It's not the seals, It's not the s |
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Also the ones who came without proper documentation are no longer in Korea
Are you sure about that? Last I heard there was an estimated 20,000 or so illegal teachers working here. Likely there's a few Canadians among that group
and it is the Hagwons' responsibility to make sure that the teacher is properly documented before hiring him or her. . |
I would say it is the TEACHER'S reponsibility to get real documents...but that's just me. |
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joshuahirtle27
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: It's not the natives, It's not the seals, It's not the s |
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I would say it is the TEACHER'S responsibility to get real documents...but that's just me.[/b] |
To GET them yes; that would lie under the heading of teachers responsibility... Making sure they are legit... that is pretty much up to whomever is hiring the "teacher" because in the immortal words of House "everybody lies" |
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