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gaychel



Joined: 25 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hale wrote:
gaychel wrote:
gaychel wrote:
Why do african american females have the highest growth rate of AIDS? Is it because it's not natural to be American, female, and of African descent?


Man, I'm really disappointed that no one has pointed out the huge fallacy in my argument yet....


Went a bit over my head, to be honest.


I guess i did do a poor job of getting my point across.

I didn't quote it, but i said it in response to some dumbass comment jim we left about how homosexuality is unnatural and that's why all the homos have all the AIDS.

As everyone probably knows, in the us, at least, African American females are catching AIDS at an incrdibly high rate. It's speculated it's becuase so many black men are "on the down low", having sex with men when they get the chance and running home to their wives and girlfriends for straight sex as a cover. It DOES, in this case, go back to homosexual activity.
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaychel wrote:
Justin Hale wrote:
gaychel wrote:
gaychel wrote:
Why do african american females have the highest growth rate of AIDS? Is it because it's not natural to be American, female, and of African descent?


Man, I'm really disappointed that no one has pointed out the huge fallacy in my argument yet....


Went a bit over my head, to be honest.


I guess i did do a poor job of getting my point across.

I didn't quote it, but i said it in response to some dumbass comment jim we left about how homosexuality is unnatural and that's why all the homos have all the AIDS.

As everyone probably knows, in the us, at least, African American females are catching AIDS at an incrdibly high rate. It's speculated it's becuase so many black men are "on the down low", having sex with men when they get the chance and running home to their wives and girlfriends for straight sex as a cover. It DOES, in this case, go back to homosexual activity.


What a perfect scapegoat for HIV in the black community. We think (though we have absolutely no proof even though we watched a show on Oprah about the "down low") that gay black men are causing this problem. Gay or black? Who cares in white America?


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
So Jim do you support lesbian sex for women over hetero sex because it is a healthier lifestyle choice?


Don't expect a response from jimmy we. Once you actually make an argument based on logic that he can't retort with one of his cut and past responses from the Internet the best you will get from him is his rambling about how he knows it all and you know nothing. Oh yeh, he will call you an arse hole as well.
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jim_we



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The populations that AIDS hits hardest are due to SELF CONTROLLED BEHAVIOR. Increased risks, such as drug use, promiscuity, etc... increase the risk of STD's, especially AIDS. If a certain segment of the population is getting AIDS, it's because of behavior, unlike what the PC Nazi crowd would have you believe. Like I said, AIDS is planet Earth flushing the toilet.

The Health Risks of Gay Sex
JOHN R. DIGGS, JR., M.D.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html

As a physician, it is my duty to assess behaviors for their impact on health and wellbeing. When something is beneficial, such as exercise, good nutrition, or adequate sleep, it is my duty to recommend it. Likewise, when something is harmful, such as smoking, overeating, alcohol or drug abuse, and homosexual sex, it is my duty to discourage it.

Executive Summary

Sexual relationships between members of the same sex expose gays, lesbians and bisexuals to extreme risks of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), physical injuries, mental disorders and even a shortened life span. There are five major distinctions between gay and heterosexual relationships, with specific medical consequences. They are:

* Levels of Promiscuity

Prior to the AIDS epidemic, a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s. The medical consequence of this promiscuity is that gays have a greatly increased likelihood of contracting HIV/AIDS, syphilis and other STDs.

Similar extremes of promiscuity have not been documented among lesbians. However, an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Any degree of sexual promiscuity carries the risk of contracting STDs.

* Physical Health

Common sexual practices among gay men lead to numerous STDs and physical injuries, some of which are virtually unknown in the heterosexual population. Lesbians are also at higher risk for STDs. In addition to diseases that may be transmitted during lesbian sex, a study at an Australian STD clinic found that lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV.

* Mental Health

It is well established that there are high rates of psychiatric illnesses, including depression, drug abuse, and suicide attempts, among gays and lesbians. This is true even in the Netherlands, where gay, lesbian and bisexual (GLB) relationships are far more socially acceptable than in the U.S. Depression and drug abuse are strongly associated with risky sexual practices that lead to serious medical problems.

* Life Span

The only epidemiological study to date on the life span of gay men concluded that gay and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.

* Monogamy

Monogamy, meaning long-term sexual fidelity, is rare in GLB relationships, particularly among gay men. One study reported that 66 percent of gay couples reported sex outside the relationship within the first year, and nearly 90 percent if the relationship lasted five years.

Encouraging people to engage in risky sexual behavior undermines good health and can result in a shortened life span. Yet that is exactly what employers and governmental entities are doing when they grant GLB couples benefits or status that make GLB relationships appear more socially acceptable................

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
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gaychel



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Join Me wrote:

What a perfect scapegoat for HIV in the black community. We think (though we have absolutely no proof even though we watched a show on Oprah about the "down low") that gay black men are causing this problem. Gay or black? Who cares in white America?


While it's not a topic I have done extensive research on, I can tell you that by hanging out in plenty of gay bars in Houston, there are definitely plenty of hardened, thug-looking types who, presumably, are more than likely on the DL. Granted, I haven't conducted a survey, but it's pretty transparent.
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jim_we



Joined: 06 May 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See! They even cause earthquakes!

20 February 2008
Israeli MP blames quakes on gays
Ultra-Orthodox Jews protest in Jerusalem against a Gay Pride parade in 2007


Ultra-Orthodox Jews protest in Jerusalem

An Israeli MP has blamed parliament's tolerance of gays for earthquakes that have rocked the Holy Land recently.

Shlomo Benizri, of the ultra-Orthodox Jewish Shas Party, said the tremors had been caused by lawmaking that gave "legitimacy to sodomy".

Israel decriminalised homosexuality in 1988 and has since passed several laws recognising gay rights.

Two earthquakes shook the region last week and a further four struck in November and December.

Adoption

Mr Benizri made his comments while addressing a committee of the Israeli parliament, or Knesset, about the country's readiness for earthquakes.

He called on lawmakers to stop "passing legislation on how to encourage homosexual activity in the state of Israel, which anyway brings about earthquakes".

Israeli court rulings in recent years have granted inheritance rights to gay couples and recognised same-sex marriages performed abroad.

Last week, Israel's attorney general ruled same-sex couples could adopt. [/i]
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judge Baxter, dissenting from the opinion of the majority of judges in the case, wrote:

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"I cannot join the majority's holding that the California Constitution gives same-sex couples a right to marry," the dissent said. "In reaching this decision, I believe, the majority violates the separation of powers, and thereby commits profound error.

"Nothing in our Constitution, express or implicit, compels the majority's startling conclusion that the age-old understanding of marriage � an understanding recently confirmed by an initiative law � is no longer valid," Baxter continued. "California statutes already recognize same-sex unions and grant them all the substantive legal rights this state can bestow.

"If there is to be a further sea change in the social and legal understanding of marriage itself, that evolution should occur by similar democratic means. The majority forecloses this ordinary democratic process, and, in doing so, oversteps its authority....

"Who can say that, in 10, 15, or 20 years, an activist court might not rely on the majority's analysis to conclude, on the basis of a perceived evolution in community values, that the laws prohibiting polygamous and incestuous marriages were no longer constitutionally justified?" the Baxter opinion said."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=64376

Judge Baxter is right that this ruling "violates the separation of powers". Judges don't have the authority to make laws. That is the job of the legislature. It would be one thing for the California state legislature to amend their Constitution to recognize a right to gay marriage, but it's another thing when the same objective is effectively accomplished by judges legislating from the bench. How does the California Constitution suddenly protect a right to gay marriage when it has never been understand to do that?
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim_we wrote:

The Health Risks of Gay Sex
JOHN R. DIGGS, JR., M.D.

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html


Catholiceducation.org
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An Israeli MP has blamed parliament's tolerance of gays for earthquakes that have rocked the Holy Land recently.


WTF? So China must be fucking Mardi Gras
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stops the spread of AIDS!!Smile

Friday, April 18, 2008
Iran Leads the World In Executing Gays

According to Amnesty ‎International, Iran had the highest number of execution of homosexuals in that year. Several ‎cases of executions of homosexuals were cited in cities such as Shiraz, Esfahan, Tehran, Rasht, ‎Ahwaz, Tabriz, Kermanshah and Mashhad. ‎

According to reports, the harshest treatments of homosexuals took place in Isfahan last year. ‎Police and security officers in Isfahan orchestrated widespread raids on homosexuals on two ‎occasions, in spring and winter, arresting and torturing a great number of suspected ‎homosexuals. First, in May of 2007, 83 homosexuals were arrested in one day at a private ‎gathering and, after being transported to the "Dastgerd" prison in Esfahan and tortured, 33 of ‎them were summoned for further criminal inquiries. These individuals were tried at branch 114 ‎of the Esfahan criminal court and almost all were ordered to pay hefty fines. ‎

The second occasion began with a simple birthday party. While 17 young men had gathered in ‎one of Esfahan's Armenian neighborhoods to celebrate a friend's birthday, the birthday party was ‎interrupted with a police attack. This time, the arrested individuals were transported not to ‎Dastgerd prison, but to an Intelligence Ministry detention facility in Esfahan, located on Roudaki ‎Avenue. According to an attorney qualified to practice law in Iran, "interrogating and subjecting ‎people to severe torture by the Intelligence Minister on suspicion of being a homosexual is ‎unprecedented." ‎


In 2005, in a highly publicized case, Iranian gay teens Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni (pictured) were hanged by the regime.
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SirFink



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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grimalkin wrote:
You gotta tell me what you think goes in the pros column of those who choose to be homosexual Razz


Anal sex. Duh. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim we, all you prove is that you have the morality of the Iranian government. If this hate filled venting and as predicted cutting pasting is all you can come up with to keep you in the closet and stop mummy and daddy from disowning you then carry on. But it reveals to all of us your denial and pointless arguments. Gays are nasty and promiscuous. Yet gays want a committed relationship such as marriage which is monogamous, yet this shouldn't be encouraged.

Stop the creaking! Open the closet! Laughing
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SirFink wrote:
Grimalkin wrote:
You gotta tell me what you think goes in the pros column of those who choose to be homosexual Razz


Anal sex. Duh. Rolling Eyes
\\

Pro, or con? Is it only con in homosexual cases?

It's funny, many people who are hell-bent against homosexual sex will . . . ahem . . . with their girls.

(don't know your opinion. . .but it's an interesting bit of hypocrisy!)
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jim_we wrote:
Stops the spread of AIDS!!Smile

Friday, April 18, 2008
Iran Leads the World In Executing Gays

According to Amnesty ‎International, Iran had the highest number of execution of homosexuals in that year. Several ‎cases of executions of homosexuals were cited in cities such as Shiraz, Esfahan, Tehran, Rasht, ‎Ahwaz, Tabriz, Kermanshah and Mashhad. ‎

According to reports, the harshest treatments of homosexuals took place in Isfahan last year. ‎Police and security officers in Isfahan orchestrated widespread raids on homosexuals on two ‎occasions, in spring and winter, arresting and torturing a great number of suspected ‎homosexuals. First, in May of 2007, 83 homosexuals were arrested in one day at a private ‎gathering and, after being transported to the "Dastgerd" prison in Esfahan and tortured, 33 of ‎them were summoned for further criminal inquiries. These individuals were tried at branch 114 ‎of the Esfahan criminal court and almost all were ordered to pay hefty fines. ‎

The second occasion began with a simple birthday party. While 17 young men had gathered in ‎one of Esfahan's Armenian neighborhoods to celebrate a friend's birthday, the birthday party was ‎interrupted with a police attack. This time, the arrested individuals were transported not to ‎Dastgerd prison, but to an Intelligence Ministry detention facility in Esfahan, located on Roudaki ‎Avenue. According to an attorney qualified to practice law in Iran, "interrogating and subjecting ‎people to severe torture by the Intelligence Minister on suspicion of being a homosexual is ‎unprecedented." ‎


In 2005, in a highly publicized case, Iranian gay teens Mahmoud Asgari and Ayaz Marhoni (pictured) were hanged by the regime.


jimmy weee,

Thanks for proving my point that the closest you can get to producing a logical argument is ctrl + c.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaychel wrote:
Join Me wrote:

What a perfect scapegoat for HIV in the black community. We think (though we have absolutely no proof even though we watched a show on Oprah about the "down low") that gay black men are causing this problem. Gay or black? Who cares in white America?


While it's not a topic I have done extensive research on, I can tell you that by hanging out in plenty of gay bars in Houston, there are definitely plenty of hardened, thug-looking types who, presumably, are more than likely on the DL. Granted, I haven't conducted a survey, but it's pretty transparent.


I have never studied the issue either but I would guess the combination of drugs, poverty and ignorance of the issue of HIV has more to do with its growth in the black community than homosexuality does.

Black people just happened to see it was trendy to blame gays for everything under the sun and jumped on the band wagon.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All these "Holier Than Thou" PC wankers on Dave's kill me!

Politically Correct nazi

An ubersensative liberal moron whose taken a not-to-bad idea to it's absolute ultimate extreme to the point where we can't say or do ANYthing because it's not "politically correct" and may conceivably offend someone.
NEWS FLASH: No matter what you say or do, someone somewhere is going to be offended, it's a universal constant !

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