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mindmetoo
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| Looks like she hit him first. About time adjuma got what was coming to her after all those years of pushing and shoving and expecting respect.. |
What I saw was him pushing her back first. If someone started pushing you backwards, wouldn't you punch 'em in the face? |
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Quack Addict
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| She struck first, she deserved it. |
Its an old lady you moron. When is it alright to kick the crap out of the elderly? Are you a tough guy? Like to kick puppies and punch grandmas....you parents must be very proud of you. |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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So what?
How do you justify a 26 Year old beating a young child or an infant?
Have you ever suffered at the hand of abuse? |
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Lekker
Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Lekker wrote: |
| Looks like she hit him first. About time adjuma got what was coming to her after all those years of pushing and shoving and expecting respect.. |
What I saw was him pushing her back first. If someone started pushing you backwards, wouldn't you punch 'em in the face? |
I know, you are right, I am wrong. I was being sarcastic. The guy deserves a serious pounding. |
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Quack Addict
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Temporary wrote: |
So what?
How do you justify a 26 Year old beating a young child or an infant?
Have you ever suffered at the hand of abuse? |
"oh no...grandma pushed me...i'm so abused...take this!"..(insert right foot to the chest of grannie)..ha ha ha Nice logic. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Lekker wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Lekker wrote: |
| Looks like she hit him first. About time adjuma got what was coming to her after all those years of pushing and shoving and expecting respect.. |
What I saw was him pushing her back first. If someone started pushing you backwards, wouldn't you punch 'em in the face? |
I know, you are right, I am wrong. I was being sarcastic. The guy deserves a serious pounding. |
Don't get me wrong. I appreciate your sarcasm. I know some of those pushy ajummas need to wind up on their duff sometimes. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Vid: Young Korean cop beats on old woman |
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If you are feeling a bit angry to begin with don't click on the vid just yet. Although, it's not extremely bad, it just highlights a few things. If you are in a state of bliss with Korea it might destroy your calm a little.
This is a young Korean cop beating on an old woman.
She was asked to stoop selling kimbap while there was a protest so yeah, he may have been a bit stressed - but still, to get off scot-free is not cool.
Trouble is all the other men are cops too, so nothing will happen to him:
It won't be on the News due to censorship.
There's no blood or anything, just in my mind it shows two things clearly, that Korean people in general need to mellow out, and two there needs to be more democracy, and three (okay, three) so many Korean men seem like absolute weaklings. What's their problem???
http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=8156323&q=%B1%E8%B9%E4%C7%D2%B8%D3%B4%CF%20%C6%F8%C7%E0
have to watch for 40 seconds until ... |
So ONE video shows you all these things? Wow that's impressive. I watched it and to me it didn't seem like proof for any of the above assertions. To me it just looked like some young punk involved in an altercation with a old lady. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: Re: Vid: Young Korean cop beats on old woman |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Cheonmunka wrote: |
If you are feeling a bit angry to begin with don't click on the vid just yet. Although, it's not extremely bad, it just highlights a few things. If you are in a state of bliss with Korea it might destroy your calm a little.
This is a young Korean cop beating on an old woman.
She was asked to stoop selling kimbap while there was a protest so yeah, he may have been a bit stressed - but still, to get off scot-free is not cool.
Trouble is all the other men are cops too, so nothing will happen to him:
It won't be on the News due to censorship.
There's no blood or anything, just in my mind it shows two things clearly, that Korean people in general need to mellow out, and two there needs to be more democracy, and three (okay, three) so many Korean men seem like absolute weaklings. What's their problem???
http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=8156323&q=%B1%E8%B9%E4%C7%D2%B8%D3%B4%CF%20%C6%F8%C7%E0
have to watch for 40 seconds until ... |
So ONE video shows you all these things? Wow that's impressive. I watched it and to me it didn't seem like proof for any of the above assertions. To me it just looked like some young punk involved in an altercation with a old lady. |
Indeed. The information from the bold sentences is wrong.
1. The guy is not a cop. Just a 용역 guy.
2. He got arrested and apparently it was on Nocut News. Check this:
http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=8169120&lu=v_pop |
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Join Me
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Like I said. Stupid, but his punishment far outweighs the crime already. This guy's life is ruined cause the police decided to arrest him and let every news station stick a camera in his face. Now Koreans will harass him until he quits his job, school and becomes a drunk on the streets that contributes nothing to society for the rest of his life. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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To be fair he put his own face on camera when he punched the old women while clearly someone was filming him.
But it's still pretty dumb how cameras are allowed into police stations, and was that a police interview? Guess the people still need their public executions and the police seen to be awake. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:06 pm Post subject: Re: Vid: Young Korean cop beats on old woman |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Cheonmunka wrote: |
If you are feeling a bit angry to begin with don't click on the vid just yet. Although, it's not extremely bad, it just highlights a few things. If you are in a state of bliss with Korea it might destroy your calm a little.
This is a young Korean cop beating on an old woman.
She was asked to stoop selling kimbap while there was a protest so yeah, he may have been a bit stressed - but still, to get off scot-free is not cool.
Trouble is all the other men are cops too, so nothing will happen to him:
It won't be on the News due to censorship.
There's no blood or anything, just in my mind it shows two things clearly, that Korean people in general need to mellow out, and two there needs to be more democracy, and three (okay, three) so many Korean men seem like absolute weaklings. What's their problem???
http://tvpot.daum.net/clip/ClipView.do?clipid=8156323&q=%B1%E8%B9%E4%C7%D2%B8%D3%B4%CF%20%C6%F8%C7%E0
have to watch for 40 seconds until ... |
So ONE video shows you all these things? Wow that's impressive. I watched it and to me it didn't seem like proof for any of the above assertions. To me it just looked like some young punk involved in an altercation with a old lady. |
Moreover, it seems to me the Korea-haters can't even find any decent anecdotes with which to smear the entire Korean population with the misbehavior of several Koreans. I mean, this is the best you've got? Seriously?
Korea is really such a tame country. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really want to paintbrush. It's just that sometimes what I see and hear (sometimes it seems overwhelming and frequent) persuades me. Also, the history and primary accounts I hear about the things that occured before with the war and stuff ...
Someone who is employed in the service preventing protesters from moving about and is controlling them is a cop to me.
We could call him 'an Official' then?
'An Official Hired by the Government Beats on Old Lady.' Is that much better?
Nocut News? I was referring to News broadcasts being MBC, KBS, SBS.
The link you make is to the same website as I did when the story first broke.  Don't throw that in to make an argument out of it
I'm not a Korean hater, Kuros. Sadly, Korea cannot be the best. It cannot live up to the expectations we have of it.
I wrote what I felt without much thought. I posted it within two minutes over lunch while munching on my rice.. I'm not making an argument with which to disprove or not. Just feelings.
한국은 싫는게 아닌데 실망스러운 느낌이거든요. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: |
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Someone who is employed in the service preventing protesters from moving about and is controlling them is a cop to me.
We could call him 'an Official' then?
'An Official Hired by the Government Beats on Old Lady.' Is that much better? |
Who is not a cop is not a cop, right? Although he was hired as extra work force by the city, I do not think he possesses the same training experience, authority and responsibilities as a cop.
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Nocut News? I was referring to News broadcasts being MBC, KBS, SBS.
The link you make is to the same website as I did when the story first broke. Don't throw that in to make an argument out of it |
Maybe the major TV stations did not think it was very newsworthy, not because of some unknown "censorship" you mentioned. Why would they want to censor it? Still you have these newspapers (and the portal sites that show them):
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
I wrote what I felt without much thought. I posted it within two minutes over lunch while munching on my rice.. I'm not making an argument with which to disprove or not. Just feelings.
한국은 싫는게 아닌데 실망스러운 느낌이거든요. |
I know. I'm just correcting the misinformation that is obvious to me as usual.  |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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I do get the point now that it was just one idiot guy. I was pretty emotional when I first saw it. It stirs things up and takes on a bigger importance. But it's not that bigger deal, right? Yet, if it affected me like that, how much more would the consequences be if it were shown on mainstream?
Hankyorei is a 'left' publication. It's mass, but it's not mainstream News.
World Daily, 세계일보, this is the first time I've ever heard of this publication.
I don't get out much. I get news from the majors. I believe they censor a lot.
Singers and musicians appearing on TV are not allowed to curse nor dress in ways that don't conform to the KBS et al notion of appearance. That goes way above censorship - it's grooming.
This is what makes us complain that Korean music on TV 'all sounds the same.'
If a whole youth music culture is completely fabricated, how easy to skip a two minute news item?
In this case a government employed worker, a government sponsored official, (employed for the purpose of controlling an anti-government policy citizen protest) beat up a citizen. Surely that alone is enough to warrant not showing it to the masses? If not for 'just in case.'
My mother and father in law, my wife and people in my family would be pissed if they saw it.
Censorship surely exists, but in many cases it might not be a bad thing. News can freak people out. |
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bookemdanno
Joined: 30 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Korean men act this way because their mothers think they can do no wrong or are afraid to tell them so.
They've been given preference and spoiled from birth, so this incident, as unfortunate as it is, doesn't surprise me.
I wonder if this sort of thing occurs in other Asian countries? I'd tend to think not but who knows.
Korea could use a few more feminists. |
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