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aka Dave
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| In California there's a huge demand for public school teachers. You can probably teach with just an emergency credential - if you're a math or science major, you definitely can. |
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ReeseDog
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching in Korea Bad For Career? |
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| fozziejr2 wrote: |
So I just finished my teaching program at Michigan State University, and I have the itch to travel and live rather than settle into some US public school job. I have been warned by others though that if I start my career abroad it might be harder to get a teaching job when I get back. I have been told numerous times to at least teach in the states at least 1 year before I go abroad. BUT I DONT WANT TO. Also, the other difficulty is that when my year contract it up it will be late August 2009, and most schools in the states will have already started again (if I come back).
I was just wondering what you all think about this. Do you think teaching ESL abroad (Korea specially) looks bad back at home? Is it seen as a cop-out job, or does it signify that you are a dynamic individual as many other teachers would not be willing or able to do the same? I would really hate to shoot myself in the foot before I get started. A tough question, but something I can't gauge until I would do it. |
Teaching for a year in America will do nothing for you except potentially burn you out on teaching. The demand for teachers in America is so high that schools will be kissing your ass by the time you get back. |
Yup. The U.S. is hurting for teachers in all areas, and the baby boomers are retiring. No teacher will have a problem getting a job in America for the next twenty years. |
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ReeseDog
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
| ...and you'll be able to pay off loans and bank for your MA (isn't that still mandatory for teachers in the US?). |
Never has been, though it helps garnering choice positions. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ReeseDog wrote: |
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| ...and you'll be able to pay off loans and bank for your MA (isn't that still mandatory for teachers in the US?). |
Never has been, though it helps garnering choice positions. |
It depends on the state. In NY, you have to get a Master's within 5 years of getting your initial certificate in order to remain certified. |
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ReeseDog
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
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| PRagic wrote: |
| ...and you'll be able to pay off loans and bank for your MA (isn't that still mandatory for teachers in the US?). |
Never has been, though it helps garnering choice positions. |
It depends on the state. In NY, you have to get a Master's within 5 years of getting your initial certificate in order to remain certified. |
You gotta be shittin' me! New York, no less. Good luck filling those city schools. |
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Evanzinho
Joined: 10 Apr 2008
Location: California
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| aka Dave wrote: |
| In California there's a huge demand for public school teachers. You can probably teach with just an emergency credential - if you're a math or science major, you definitely can. |
I currently reside in California, and I must say that although this might have been true in past years, right now, because of the budget defecit, the state is laying off thousands of teachers; mostly younger ones with less seniority. So I don't think right now is a good time to be looking for a teaching job here in California.
But within the next ten years of so, after all the boomers have retired, then I think there will be so many teaching positions here, one won't have a problem finding a job. |
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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching in Korea Bad For Career? |
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| fozziejr2 wrote: |
So I just finished my teaching program at Michigan State University, and I have the itch to travel and live rather than settle into some US public school job. I have been warned by others though that if I start my career abroad it might be harder to get a teaching job when I get back. I have been told numerous times to at least teach in the states at least 1 year before I go abroad. BUT I DONT WANT TO. Also, the other difficulty is that when my year contract it up it will be late August 2009, and most schools in the states will have already started again (if I come back).
I was just wondering what you all think about this. Do you think teaching ESL abroad (Korea specially) looks bad back at home? Is it seen as a cop-out job, or does it signify that you are a dynamic individual as many other teachers would not be willing or able to do the same? I would really hate to shoot myself in the foot before I get started. A tough question, but something I can't gauge until I would do it. |
Teaching in Korea won't hurt you much at all I wouldn't think. It might be slightly less impressive than a U.S. teaching job, but it definantly won't be shabby. I must admit that I don't know how it relates specifically to the teaching profession, but many people i've spoken with in different fields think that teaching in Korea can actually be a very powerful thing to have on your resume. It shows that you are very versatile, resourceful and capable I think.
Most people don't see moving to Korea as a cop-out. They see it as doing something very challenging and difficult. And one year from now you can have the exact same resume, but with Korea added to it. Where's the problem?
Also, you gotta do what you want to do in life. Don't be a sell out and do things that you don't want to do for the sake of the rat race. Don't be a tool, do what you want to do with yourelf, not what the unstable job market wants you to do. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Son Deureo! wrote: |
It depends on the state. In NY, you have to get a Master's within 5 years of getting your initial certificate in order to remain certified. |
In fact, the year I graduated they had changed it to getting an MA in 3 years, but they later went back to 5 because people got so angry about it. New York is NOT a good state to try and teach in, unless you're willing to work at the worst schools. They have a dearth of well-qualified teachers and not enough schools to put them in. Most people seem to go down south or out west where the jobs are after graduation. |
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VirginIslander
Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan
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If you want to travel abroad but still teach on American soil, then try to the US Virgin Islands. Or, Guam and Puerto Rico.
http://www.vimovingcenter.com/
You can easily land a job at one of the VI private schools. I spent two years down there and I have friends who have been down for three, five, ten and more than twenty-five years. Diverse classes, beautiful beaches, regular teaching.
Plus, you could do your mastes at the University of the VI, too. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to travel abroad but still teach on American soil, then try to the US Virgin Islands. Or, Guam and Puerto Rico.
http://www.vimovingcenter.com/
You can easily land a job at one of the VI private schools. I spent two years down there and I have friends who have been down for three, five, ten and more than twenty-five years. Diverse classes, beautiful beaches, regular teaching.
Plus, you could do your mastes at the University of the VI, too. |
I thought this guy was holding a rifle. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| haute 4 teacher wrote: |
| Also, if you work for an accredited school your year here may count for a year on the salary scale of wherever you plan to work in America. Not so a hogwan. |
Not true in my experience. I have two years of hogwon experience on my US state teaching license. You need to know how to document it. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| If you have to ask it most probably is. |
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Eedoryeong
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Teaching in Korea Bad For Career? |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
| kangnam mafioso wrote: |
hahahaha
most states these days have such a shortage they recruit non-certified teachers into accelerated training programs with full pay. |
Basically. Outside of the states with high standards in their teacher certification programs (NY, California, Ohio), most states are absolutely dying for teachers. Down south you can't throw a rock without hitting a school that'd hire you practically on the spot. |
I think I'd be interested to know more about that. Are they all to fill the same type of school or various? |
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