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'Lesson plan contest' for Kor teachers pub school(?)
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Lesson plan contest' for Kor teachers pub school(?) Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
captain kirk wrote:
My Kcoteacher is multi-faceted.


Yes, she's a 'diamond' who has been polished by Korean higher education.

I'm not qualified to make the diagnosis, but it sounds more like she's 'bipolar'. One way to confirm this is to rummage through her desk drawers and see if you can find a prescription for lithium.



Yes, she's pretty classy all right. I don't know about rummaging around her stuff looking for her lithium. That'd just be loopy. Maybe I'll just show her some inkblots. What's this? A butterfly being dilligent. What's this other inkblot? A dutiful squirrel hoisting acorns. And this? The industrious inner lesson planner/demo doer I know is inside me.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 'Lesson plan contest' for Kor teachers pub school(?) Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
... That'd just be loopy.


I wasn't actually serious. Wink

I do like the inkblot idea. Would she be able to sit still long enough for you to pull it off?
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DongtanTony



Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
At my schools the Korean teachers never come to class, so if they ever suggested doing a "coteaching" plan like that we'd have some problems. It sucks that there's no real method for evaluating and ranking foreign teachers.


Well...to be honest...this is because of the multitudes of foreigners who come to Korea to "play teacher."

Co-teaching is in place to assist those multitudes who have zero idea about what it really means to be a teacher...captain kirk...I'm not combining you into this group...but there are hundreds of people who come here without as much as tutoring experience, let alone the skills to actually manage a classroom.

Korean teachers actually have educational training...we can debate the merits of that training all day...but the fact remains is that these public schools invite largely unqualified, untrained individuals into their classrooms in mass...if I were a Korean teacher, I'd be a little hesitant as well.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DongtanTony wrote:
Co-teaching is in place to assist those multitudes who have zero idea about what it really means to be a teacher. who come here without as much as tutoring experience, let alone the skills to actually manage a classroom.

Korean teachers actually have educational training...




Last Thursday a grade 6 homeroom teacher had two girls 'talking it out' in the staffroom. It was like the Jerry Springer Show. One was chin up validating her spoilt self. The other spent a lot of time crying with her head down like she was horking loogies. The grade 6 teacher presding looked like he just wished these dumb bitches would shut up. Then three more girls joined in to confer and share feelings about the flap that went on in class that needs repair here at 'feelings R us'. At the end the grade 6 teacher made some jokes that had them all laughing. In another class that day some kid puked with that homeroom teacher mopping it up. Other skilz!

Yes there should always be a Kcoteacher present in class with a foreigner to 'collect evidence' and know definitively what the fark is going on. Because sometimes it gets messy. My Kcoteacher, though, is a powermad pirate. She'd kill her own grandmother and steal her lesson plans.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the problem of doing a simple four minutes out of your day to help her out with something that is obviously very important to her.

However, I would definitely bring up the fact that this was decided without even ASKING me first. I would tell her (1) I will help this ONE time because it seems to be very important to her, (2) I will never do this in the future unless she ASKS me to help FIRST, and (3) she owes me one (and I WILL collect).
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if anyone mentioned this or not, I'm too lazy to ready through all the posts at this moment.

None of this surprises me much, but one thing.....

They picked a lesson plan that only utilizes the foreign teacher for 4 or 5 minutes out of a 40 minute lesson as THE WINNNING LESSON PLAN,
And only uses the native speaker for listen and repeat practice.

What does this say about the objectives and attitudes of the Korean education officials?

I wonder what the losing plans looked like.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like at the end of the day you get about as much respect as the CD player. You're a piece of equipment there to make her lesson look good. She obviously has her head too far up her own arse to notice what job if any you do at your school. You can love your CD player and be at a loss without it, but you don't want it getting equal credit. When you raise your concerns you then find yourself treading on eggshells around her fragile ego. You probably deeply insulted her by not being a good little CD player.

The other sad truth is that her idea of a lesson plan is what the DOE is expecting. Anything you or I came up with would not make it that far as it would probably be beyond their idea of how a good lesson is taught.

Anyway, my CD player always skips. Maybe you could go in slurring and stuttering for 4mins.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
I don't know if anyone mentioned this or not, I'm too lazy to ready through all the posts at this moment.

wonder what the losing plans looked like.


And I'm too lazy to write anymore. I think the losing lesson plans had the FT as the star and the KTeacher sat at the back playing with her cellphone. It was too close to the truth. Everybody got scared.

I'll never forget her voice saying, 'why did you come to Korea if you won't help me. Your job is to help ME. Why don't you go back to your home country!'. And I said, 'I didn't come all the way to Korea to help you in YOUR demo class doing 'listen and repeat' for four minutes'. I really think she's farked these days. Talk about a prima donna. If I was her husband I'd bang her.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
When you raise your concerns you then find yourself treading on eggshells around her fragile ego. You probably deeply insulted her by not being a good little CD player.


She just sat back and let me thrash. In her mind she has already pocketed and banked the demo. For the good of the school! (read 'own ambition'). She's a dragon lady in the making. Probably when she loses her looks and gets rundown (next week). Actually we have our good days. Actually I think she sucks.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I was thinking of getting a more urban school, but my coteacher is pure gold-she'd never pull that type of nonsense wit me-she was stressed out when my principal asked me to renew and I said I needed an apartment in the city.

Tough if you like her-but she sounds either bipolar or just flighty-hard call to make-I'm at 1 midschool where my coteacher is at, and 2 elementary-a grade 3 teacher just leaves when I arrive, which is fine by me, Stupid xenophobic Korean *beep* that he is.

Let us know what you do-I'm hoping for the "We won't be doing it" response.
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Failure for the Kteacher may mean back to being a homeroom 2nd grade teacher next year, or transferring. You know how much the teachers rotate at PSs, and there are some bad schools out there.
Perhaps they want another year or two at their current school?

I would like my current job for another year too.
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it's full of stars



Joined: 26 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Help her, if she doesn't help you after that or be nice, then stick some eyedrops in a cup of coffee before the next teachers' class.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crusher_of_heads wrote:


she sounds either bipolar or just flighty



I'm bipolar. She's something else.

Just kidding. Hey, it's Korea. If you weren't special when you arrived it's just a matter of time.
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captain kirk



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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobbyken wrote:
Failure for the Kteacher may mean back to being a homeroom 2nd grade teacher next year, or transferring. Perhaps she wants another year or two at her current school?



She has been at this school three years and wants to stay two more. I think that's what she said. So you're right!
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's full of stars wrote:
Help her, if she doesn't help you after that or be nice, then stick some eyedrops in a cup of coffee before the next teachers' class.


The other teachers will be envious. Why can't they pass out like that? Why must they continue to endure my class?
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