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Snowkr
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 Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:16 pm Post subject: undergrads teaching here... would you have done it? |
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I'm curious...
I wonder how many undergrad students will be "lining up" for the chance to come to Korea and "teach" this upcoming August. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| I really really didn't want to do that last year of university. I only did it because I had no other options. If this had been an option then, I believe I would have done it. |
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KoreanAmbition
Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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My masters program allowed me to go on an exchange to France, and I was supposed to go to China after that but there were administrative complications (so I couldn't go).
I would have done something like this if I had the chance and my school allowed it.
I am unsure how many students will actually do it, but I think if there are any that are tired of the same routine they'd be happy to give something else a try. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't have come here as an undergrad. I had a better-paying job teaching at my own uni. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: Re: undergrads teaching here... would you have done it? |
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| Snowkr wrote: |
I'm curious...
I wonder how many undergrad students will be "lining up" for the chance to come to Korea and "teach" this upcoming August. |
We'll know in September. |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't have come here as an undergrad. I had a better-paying job teaching at my own uni. |
My undergrad job paid about the same (more when I had two at the same time and I really miss that being legal!) but I didn't get it until I'd committed to the final year of university. If I'd been able to say "woohoo, *beep* you school I'm going to Korea!" I would have done it and not job-hunted at home at all.
I think I said this before in another thread, and also that in hindsight it would have been the WRONG choice, but... I probably would have done it. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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How many will still be here in November?  |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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If I knew what I knew when I came to Korea, I'd have probably given it a shot...
If I knew what I know now...not a chance!
Many of us here aren't considered "proper" teachers and are given the respect and treatment of a TA... now take away 5 years and a degree...
From a financial point of view...this program isn't too unattractive, I'd be really interested to see how the implement it.. will it be 15 hours teaching in a 20-25 hour work week...or will it be 15 hours teaching with 25 hours twiddling thumbs? (if its the former, it would actually be a great opportunity for a 6 months or so to live and experience a different country...) |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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If I knew what I knew when I came to Korea, I'd have probably given it a shot...
If I knew what I know now...not a chance!
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To quote Bob Seger: Wish I didn't know know what I didn't know then.
I've worked in rural schools, where old teachers go to die, and young ones are only there to earn faster promotion points, and all I can say is "NOOOOOOOO! Don't do it!"
I think it will be disastrously implemented, and people who come will be in for the shock of their lives, but having said that, if I were young and naive, I'd be up for it as a bit of a lark. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:40 am Post subject: |
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| Draz wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| I wouldn't have come here as an undergrad. I had a better-paying job teaching at my own uni. |
My undergrad job paid about the same (more when I had two at the same time and I really miss that being legal!) but I didn't get it until I'd committed to the final year of university. If I'd been able to say "woohoo, *beep* you school I'm going to Korea!" I would have done it and not job-hunted at home at all.
I think I said this before in another thread, and also that in hindsight it would have been the WRONG choice, but... I probably would have done it. |
I had much better paying jobs back home, both teaching and as a massage therapist. I only came here to broaden my teaching experiences before going back home and picking up another teaching gig at uni. It was never my intention to settle here, it just happened.
Had I never come here at all, I'd probably be sitting on my own clinic with several hundred thousand in the bank. Oh, the choices we make. |
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agoodmouse
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang
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Many of us teachers here in Korea have but only undergraduate degrees and we're teaching a wide range of students.
Snowkr, we teachers here in Korea are teaching, not "teaching."
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I'm curious...
I wonder how many undergrad students will be "lining up" for the chance to come to Korea and "teach" this upcoming August. |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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to answer the q: Yes, I would have done it, but only because like others, I wouldn't have known any better.
with that being said, if this really happens, K will become known as the "Revolving Door" of ESL teachers, without a doubt.
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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I would have done it. And that probably would have been my last experience in Korea. I would have worked my ass off to get into a Master's and do a Ph.D. directly after my BA, and never have come here long term. I came here to pay off debts and to mature a bit before I did my MA, and kind of got stuck here in a positive way--Korean wife and our kids--but the work part sucks. Very non-rewarding in the sense of raises and financial reward for hard work.
Plus, I don't think I would have done a very good job if I were here as an undergrad. What would I have known about teaching? As is, I took a TESL course before coming and it was definitely after a year on the job that my style developed fully. |
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Otherside
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
If this really happens, K will become known as the "Revolving Door" of ESL teachers, without a doubt.
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As long as the number of teachers arriving matches the number leaving, I don't think those with influence really mind. If Korea really wanted to retain teachers (good and otherwise) there are plenty of steps they could take...dropping the bar to let anyone with 2 years of undergrad study (yes, you don't need to be a current undergrad, you could have dropped out of UNI for all they care...) with plans afoot to lower the bar even more shows clearly what they are looking for... warm bodies and white* faces. |
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planthopps
Joined: 05 May 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't have done it back in University. Korea? I still have some family members when I call ask if I am safe from bombs. |
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