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greyf4i
Joined: 28 Apr 2008
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: Univ. Jobs |
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Assuming one is qualified, what is the best way to find a Univ. job? I know that many of them are not posted. I would like to apply to several, however I do live within the U.S. and am not sure how to go about searching for Univ. jobs.
Secondly, I have the same question for rural jobs (Univ. or not). I am interesed in teaching in a rural area of Korea rather than a large city. How can I narrow my search for these types of jobs. These do not have to be Univ. jobs, but any in general. I would love to be stuck in some small village in the middle of Korea. Is this hard to find?
Lastly, I have a M.S. Ed. degree and wonder how I can use my education and teaching experience in the U.S. to my advantage. In any way that is: neg. salary, landing a Univ. job, etc.
Thanks for your reply! |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: Your questions |
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I am not sure what expectations you have, but I will try to give you some information based on what I know.
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| Assuming one is qualified, what is the best way to find a Univ. job? I know that many of them are not posted. I would like to apply to several, however I do live within the U.S. and am not sure how to go about searching for Univ. jobs. |
If you know someone at a university currently, that is a start, however, the university position in Korea can range from exceptional to exceptionally bad. Most hiring in Korea is done through recruiters, and while some are good, many are not. If you have had an opportunity to look at the Dave's employment postings it should give you an idea about different types of jobs you might locate.
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| Secondly, I have the same question for rural jobs (Univ. or not). I am interested in teaching in a rural area of Korea rather than a large city. How can I narrow my search for these types of jobs. These do not have to be Univ. jobs, but any in general. I would love to be stuck in some small village in the middle of Korea. Is this hard to find? |
There are rural colleges and universities and you have to travel very short distances out of the major metropolitan areas to be "stuck in the middle of some small Korean" somewhere. Again if you go the route of a recruiter you can make a request for what type of location you want.
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| Lastly, I have a M.S. Ed. degree and wonder how I can use my education and teaching experience in the U.S. to my advantage. In any way that is: neg. salary, landing a Univ. job, etc. |
Not to burst the bubble or anything, but your degree and experience qualifications will go a very short distance here in Korea. When I arrived four years ago with an M.Ed. and 19 years of teaching experience I was placed into a hagwon teaching 4, 5 and 6 year olds. (BTW, I went through a recruiter) I was somewhat naive at that time to the hiring practices in Korea, but have since wised up.
Unless you are insistent about your requirements for employment, the recruiters will take the liberty to place you wherever they want you to go. Been there, done that. Don't get me wrong, Korea is a wonderful place and I love it here now, but if I could go back and change a few things, the one thing I would have done is what you are doing now, asking questions. All the best in your search. I hope things work out for you. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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First off, it is possible to get university jobs from abroad, but your chances can take a bit of a hit by not being able to be here for an interview or demo lecture.
So here's my first suggestion: Make a video of yourself, nicely dressed and groomed (when in Rome!) teaching. Also do an interview format section where you introduce yourself and give a bit of your teaching philosophy. Put it on CD and send it out with your resume. Just a suggestion, but it can go a long way to helping them get comfortable with you from a distance.
Applying? Here are some options:
1. Get a map of Korea. If you want rural, aim for anywhere outside of Seoul, Pusan, or Daegu. Compare this to a list of universities in Korea (here's one). Send out your CD, resume and cover letter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_South_Korea
2. Apply to the positions on Dave's. Many of them suck, but at least it's a foot in the door. You'd only have to suffer for a year until you could make a break to a better school.
3. Apply to Korea University and Seoul National. The employment conditions at these places have gone down so much (more classes and/or cuts in pay) that the really experienced MA holders already in Korea don't even bother applying to them. However, the name looks good on your resume if you want to tranfer to a rural university down the road. And, hey, SNU is about as rural as you can get and still be in Seoul! Heard the the managment at SNU's language institute has gone to hell in a handbad as of late, though. That place gets an 'AVOID' tag for now. Go for the department job.
4. Check out some specific university websites for employment opportunities. Often, universities want MEds to teach content education/English education courses, and this type of job isn't posted on Dave's.
In general, I'd say go straight for a university job. Shoot for fully paid vacations or minimal vacation duties. You'll want at least 2.5/month for a 12-15 hour schedule. Better places pay more, but it'll be your first job, and you want to work rural (those schools tend to pay less).
Good luck. |
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greyf4i
Joined: 28 Apr 2008
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you both for your replies! I really appreciate the time you took to answer my questions. Would either of you mind if I PM you with more questions?
Thanks again. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: No problem |
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| I just checked posts and you will need to meet the minimum limits before being able to send a PM out, but feel open to contact me any time with questions and I'll be glad to respond with any help I can give. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Good input, but I would change a couple of points:
Don't bother with a recruiter for university positions. Very few universities, and none of the better ones, bother with a recruiter.
Don't bother with hakwon jobs. Period. Waste of time and energy for you.
Don't be rushed into a decision, even if you do use a recruiter to get a public school job. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Unless you're super resume man, you'll waste your time searching for uni jobs here unless you're actually HERE to interview. Sorry, but it's the truth (at my uni, anyway).
Try for a public school job, where they will hire you from afar. Then after a year, move on to a uni. It'd be a good experience anyway, and not exactly hard. High school is best, IMHO. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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There is some great advice here. The only thing that I want to add is that it is Korean law that all positions be publicly advertised, even EFL positions. It is just that they do not have to be advertised in English. If you want a complete list of universities advertising, you need to goto Korean sites.
Another thing to consider is that you can find a list of Korean universities on the web, the wikipedia has just about every Korean university in it. Then, just mass mail the universities you are interested in around the end of semesters (November -December; May-June). If they are advertising, then you have a shot; if not anything is possible in Korea.
I would seriously consider coming to Korea to interview, if you have the funds. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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There is some great advice here. The only thing that I want to add is that it is Korean law that all positions be publicly advertised, even EFL positions. It is just that they do not have to be advertised in English. If you want a complete list of universities advertising, you need to goto Korean sites.
Another thing to consider is that you can find a list of Korean universities on the web, the wikipedia has just about every Korean university in it. Then, just mass mail the universities you are interested in around the end of semesters (November -December; May-June). If they are advertising, then you have a shot; if not anything is possible in Korea.
I would seriously consider coming to Korea to interview, if you have the funds. |
Good post, just a few things I want to add:
-Unis that hire a small number of people will seek recommendations from the current teachers to avoid posting jobs. Korean law? When has that been enforced?
-Don't "mass email" unis. Send each one your cover letter, resume, sample lesson plan, etc. personally addressed to each university. |
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greyf4i
Joined: 28 Apr 2008
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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