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Raiders = Raiders of the Lost Ark

Doom = Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

Crusade = Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

Skull = Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

Edit: I couldn't include all possible permutations. I figured that no one could possibly think of "Skull" as the best of the four.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Best: Raiders. Worst: all the rest.

Troll_Bait · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:25 am Post subject:

I disagree. I think "Doom" was almost as good as "Raiders." In fact, Raiders might only have the edge because it came first and thus seemed "fresher," a change of pace, at the time. "Crusade," I think, was too similar to Raiders (Judeo-Christian artifact, similar climaxes) and thus suffered by comparison. Skull was, in my opinion, definitely the worst. I can take falling out of an airplane, inflating a rubber raft, landing on the side of a mountain, sliding down the mountain and into a river, and finally going over a waterfall (Doom). I can't take that three consecutive times in a row (Skull). There's a difference between asking your audience to suspend disbelief (the first three) and treating them like idiots (Skull).

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

But most sequels and spin-offs strike me as pretty bad. Not always Joannie Love Chachi bad, but bad enough.

In fact, look at this problem from that angle and get some perspective: ask yourself: which was worse? Happy Days or Joannie Loves Chachi?

But this logic notwithstanding, I still think that, on its own merits (screenplay, score, originality), Raiders stands superior to all that followed -- just as, for example, Jaws stands superior to This Time Its Personal...

pkang0202 · Joined: 09 Mar 2007

I think Skulls is in the wrong decade. This movie would've been awesome in the 90's. However, throughout the movie, I just couldn't help thinking, "Harrison Ford moves so slow and he has a gut."

Also, I couldn't stand the fact that the Transformers guy is trying to be a badass biker.

Dances With Wolves · Joined: 06 May 2008 Location: A galaxy far, far away!

Ranked in order or my favorite to least favorite:

Raiders of the Lost Ark (Yeah this movie was great)

The Last Crusade / Skulls (I have these 2 tied for second, I really do not think Skulls is as bad as everyone else does, I was entertained)

Temple of Doom (Horrible Movie, but I do like the Short Round character)

Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

Dances With Wolves · Joined: 06 May 2008 Location: A galaxy far, far away!

Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

True.

So as to not go off-topic, Ima go start a new thread about this.

Czarjorge · Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:27 pm Post subject:

I'm sick of people blathering on about how bad 'Temple' was. You guys are wrong. Monkey brains, hearts getting pulled out of chests, and a little kung fu kid. What's not to love.

Gopher · Joined: 04 Jun 2005

Well, for one thing, was the Kung Fu Kid not really just on another pathetic Goonie adventure, posing as Dr. Jones's "friend?"

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Crusaders is the best, and Doom and Raiders are both good. I haven't seen Skull, but I'll assume its the worst. But I can't properly vote until I see it.

Troll_Bait · Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:58 am Post subject:

Like Czarjorge, I don't understand why people are so down on Doom. Like Raiders and Crusade, it had a strong opening scene, in a bar owned by a gangster. (Skull is the only one of the series with a weak opening scene.) It has my favorite climatic scene of the series, because Indiana has a much greater role in the outcome, and is much less a pawn of the relic. It also has a strong central villain, as opposed to "too many villains spoil the soup." Short Round could as least drive and hang onto a collapsing bridge, as opposed to Crusade's Jones Senior, who spends much of the movie trying not to get shot, on the back of a motorcycle, getting dragged here and there by Junior, etc. If it's the lack of logic, then you have to point an accusatory finger at Skull. Unlike the other movies, the "miracles" are technological in nature (science mistaken for magic), but how are dismembered alien skeletons supposed to come back to life?

ajgeddes · Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan

I like all of them, but I haven't seen Skulls yet. Crusade is my favourite, with Raiders pretty much tied, and Doom is my least favourite.

kimchi story · Joined: 23 Nov 2006

It's definitely Raiders / Skull. The only things that made Skull worth watching weren the references back to Raiders. I laughed out loud when the hangar in Area 51 turned out to be the warehouse from the end of Raiders.