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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Where's the Beef! No Really! Reply with quote

Where can we buy the US beef? E-Mart said they will refuse to
sell it and so have one or two other places. Anyone know where
we can get this stuff?

I'm gonna cram my freezer full of sumptuous Yankee bovine body
parts.

Mmmmmm, bovine.
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michael5799042



Joined: 16 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to get some too. Then I realized it would all be cut up Korean style just like the Australian beef. Then my visions of steaks and roasts were replaced with visions of a pile of little fatty beef scraps.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Where's the Beef! No Really! Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
Where can we buy the US beef? E-Mart said they will refuse to
sell it and so have one or two other places. Anyone know where
we can get this stuff?

I'm gonna cram my freezer full of sumptuous Yankee bovine body
parts.

Mmmmmm, bovine.


I wish car dealers in the U.S. would refuse to sell Korean cars. Confused
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think much of it will come over as low-grade hamburger.
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While not available at any of the major grocery stores, my guess is after June you can eat it at most any Korean restaurant. I'm sure they'll be happy to buy the cheapest beef possible. As long as Koreans don't know they are consuming "infested" beef, all will be fine. Hehe.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the long run, in order to successfully open the South Korean beef market, the U.S. beef industry will ultimately have to focus on changing the image of American beef among South Korean consumers. This will take time and will likely require both changes in the inspection and regulation of U.S. beef (as a starting point, the USDA must stop preventing Korean inspectors from entry into any American slaughterhouses they want so that Koreans can then verify that hygienic conditions are up to par) and a concomitant publicity campaign to inform South Korean consumers of these changes. A goodwill gesture is also in order, for which I suggest a programme of ongoing nationwide U.S. beef giveaways in Korea for a period of 15 to 20 years, longer if necessary.

Until this occurs, South Koreans will remain suspicious of American beef and outwardly hostile toward lippy Western expats, especially if American critics of Korea's beef regulations continue to be vocal, and if the EU and Australia continue to offer more palatable alternatives.

heh
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Gamecock



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So will America have to make concessions to Korea EVERY time their media creates a mythical controversy and whips the people up into a baseless, nationalistic fervor?

I expect Korea will lose their most important trade partner and fall into economic despair long before you see goodwill gestures like beef giveaways.
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock wrote:
While not available at any of the major grocery stores, my guess is after June you can eat it at most any Korean restaurant. I'm sure they'll be happy to buy the cheapest beef possible. As long as Koreans don't know they are consuming "infested" beef, all will be fine. Hehe.


Exactly. A few weeks/months will go by and the bleating sheep will forget what it was they were angry about in the first place. The sorts of people who can get goaded into a frenzy in a matter of a day or two will forget about it just as fast.
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michael5799042



Joined: 16 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole beef issue was created by the anti-FTA crew. The government is also planning to sign FTA agreements with Europe and China. Wait till they find out mad cow came from Europe, LOL! Then there also will be lots of new issues with China. Everyone will forget about American Beef and start worrying about whatever the next issue that the media decides will get ratings.
These protests weren't started by people with a scientific agenda, they were started by people with a political agenda.
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Justin Kimberlake



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
In the long run, in order to successfully open the South Korean beef market, the U.S. beef industry will ultimately have to focus on changing the image of American beef among South Korean consumers. This will take time and will likely require both changes in the inspection and regulation of U.S. beef (as a starting point, the USDA must stop preventing Korean inspectors from entry into any American slaughterhouses they want so that Koreans can then verify that hygienic conditions are up to par) and a concomitant publicity campaign to inform South Korean consumers of these changes. A goodwill gesture is also in order, for which I suggest a programme of ongoing nationwide U.S. beef giveaways in Korea for a period of 15 to 20 years, longer if necessary.

Until this occurs, South Koreans will remain suspicious of American beef and outwardly hostile toward lippy Western expats, especially if American critics of Korea's beef regulations continue to be vocal, and if the EU and Australia continue to offer more palatable alternatives.

heh


Yeah, but that's like having to convince Americans that Kia's don't blow up if you put the car into reverse gear.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Kimberlake wrote:
JongnoGuru wrote:
In the long run, in order to successfully open the South Korean beef market, the U.S. beef industry will ultimately have to focus on changing the image of American beef among South Korean consumers. This will take time and will likely require both changes in the inspection and regulation of U.S. beef (as a starting point, the USDA must stop preventing Korean inspectors from entry into any American slaughterhouses they want so that Koreans can then verify that hygienic conditions are up to par) and a concomitant publicity campaign to inform South Korean consumers of these changes. A goodwill gesture is also in order, for which I suggest a programme of ongoing nationwide U.S. beef giveaways in Korea for a period of 15 to 20 years, longer if necessary.

Until this occurs, South Koreans will remain suspicious of American beef and outwardly hostile toward lippy Western expats, especially if American critics of Korea's beef regulations continue to be vocal, and if the EU and Australia continue to offer more palatable alternatives.

heh


Yeah, but that's like having to convince Americans that Kia's don't blow up if you put the car into reverse gear.


Let's ban Kia! Screw it! Let's ban all Korean cars. Razz
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Mr. BlackCat



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
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The sorts of people who can get goaded into a frenzy in a matter of a day or two will forget about it just as fast


Exactly. These people didn't even know what Mad Cow was two weeks ago and have no idea what they're talking about now. Some teachers were talking about it here at my school and one of them translated to me that Mad Cow makes people go literally crazy. Like schizophrenic. You hear voices and start wearing shoeboxes on your feet. They don't even know what they're scared of.

It's like all those people who showed up in front of Terri Sheivo's hospital a few years back. Sure, some people belive in the cause. But for most its, "Look Ma! I'm on the TV!" Wearing tape across your mouth? Why? Because you ONLY have the media, Senate, House of Reps, and President on your side? I guess the Shriners haven't made their position clear.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all a load of tosh and illustrates American 'trade-agreement' bully-boy tactics perfectly. Much like the illogical and wasteful practices of the European CAP, it's more a case of the US bowing down to domestic beef industry pressure to target and open up new markets for a product that the US simply has too much of and can't get rid of anywhere else.

So what happens, the US, unhappy with SKs refusal/reluctance to allow beef imports; possibly because of BSE fears, but more likely because of SK industry protectionism being as SK beef producers simply cannot hope to compete with cheap foreign imports, starts waving the trade agreement in SK faces backed up with just a subtle suggestion that any refusal to deny the US with a potential new market for its beef will be similarly reciprocated at the US end. "You won't buy our beef? Fine, then we'll buy our semi-conductors elsewhere". Ask yourself who that's going to hurt economically in the long run.

But don't panic. Cheap and plentiful American beef imports will be available soon enough. Perhaps only, say, 5000 tonnes in the first year, but thereafter, there'll be burger joints selling 2000 won 1/4 pounders on every street corner. Far better IMO that the US (and let's not forget Europe too. I wouldn't want to appear as being Anti-American when the CAP is the single biggest drain [read French] on European financial resources) address their own agricultural inefficiencies and stop producing stuff that nobody wants and don't forget, that's without even considering the more important environmental implications of both producing beef and converting more people over to a higher protein diet.


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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

During my teacher's class, a KT asked me if I would eat the US beef. I looked at him and gave him the "you stupid I'm from the US" look and explained that I grew up on it so I wouldn't hesitate to eat it. I explained to him that you can always choose not to eat the US beef.

Then he tried to argue that the problem is that when the US beef gets here, Korean people will sell it as "han-woo". Shocked I shut his mouth by telling him that that's not the US's problem. That would be your problem. End of discussion! Laughing Laughing Razz
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like those candle-holding [insert expletive in plural form here] aren't going to get their way after all.

Get ready. The beef is coming.
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