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garykasparov
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 Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: Teachers Accused of Getting Bribes From Hagwon |
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05-29-2008 18:55
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/05/117_25002.html
Teachers Accused of Getting Bribes From Hagwon
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter
Police have launched an investigation into ``suspicious ties'' between schoolteachers and a hagwon, or private institute director in southwestern Seoul.
The investigation came a day after SBS TV accused some schoolteachers of taking bribes from the director of a hagwon in Mokdong, Seoul, in return for recommending top-class students to it.
The director allegedly bribed about 10 teachers to get help in attracting excellent students. Police said they are tracing bank accounts of workers at the hagwon.
The director, identified as Chung, also allegedly overcharged students. ``Some students paid from 2 million won ($ 2,000) up to 6 million per month,'' a police officer said.
In the SBS program, Chung admitted that he gave some presents or cash to the teachers.
Education authorities are scrutinizing this case as well. ``If the teachers received bribes from the hagwon director in exchange for pushing students to attend it, they will face severe punishment. Also, we will shut down the hagwon,'' said a spokesman from Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education.
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Unbelievable. A corrupt Hakwon owner using bribes? What's next?!?!?! Tax fraud? Withholding pay? Tricking parents into thinking their kids are actually learning and advancing? |
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dimitri31
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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you know, what's really fuked up is that when it comes to a hagwon owner screwing over foreigners (English teachers), there's no news about it.
now when it comes to screwing over their own...it's a big deal no?!
watch your back, people!! |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| dimitri31 wrote: |
you know, what's really fuked up is that when it comes to a hagwon owner screwing over foreigners (English teachers), there's no news about it.
now when it comes to screwing over their own...it's a big deal no?!
watch your back, people!! |
Pretty much. That's Korea and their news media. |
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The_Conservative
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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you know, what's really fuked up is that when it comes to a hagwon owner screwing over foreigners (English teachers), there's no news about it.
Actually there have been several articles in the KT about it, one or two were even posted here.
And how many foreigners run to the papers with their story?
now when it comes to screwing over their own...it's a big deal no?!
watch your back, people!! |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure of the problem. A hagwon paid teachers top recommend that school, the kids don't have to go, it is still up to the parents to check the school out right. Provided it is a good school I think I would have taken the money, wouldn't think of it as a bribe
How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| pkang0202 wrote: |
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How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
Nail meet head, that's exactly what I was thinking too. Not a teachers place, and as public servants should be above that. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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It's a corrupt nation. No if's, and's, or but's. They can go screw themselves in their collective butthole as far as I'm concerned. I start a new job and I'm going to be the PC teacher and not care. Let them figure it all out. I'll just get my money's worth.
That's what you learn after a while. I show up with my pale face and you pay me. Fk you all, suckers. Give me money.
Eat me. No more concern. Too much of a headache. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: |
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How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
my bad for some strange unknown reason i assumed it was hagwon teachers recommending a different hagwon
brain before typing  |
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merkurix
Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Cerriowen wrote: |
| Unbelievable. A corrupt Hakwon owner using bribes? What's next?!?!?! Tax fraud? Withholding pay? Tricking parents into thinking their kids are actually learning and advancing? |
I really hope to goodness gracious it's K-teachers and that no whiteys are involved. If there are whiteys involved in this bribery scandal, you can bet your donuts that the hagwon boss will be painted as the "victim" and whitey will bear all the blame. |
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moosehead
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| blackjack wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
my bad for some strange unknown reason i assumed it was hagwon teachers recommending a different hagwon
brain before typing |
wait a minute tho - I still don't see the problem - weren't they just recruiting students? and getting paid to do so? what's wrong with that? how is that a "bribe?"
they weren't forging test scores or giving extra credit in the classroom; this seems to be something outside of the school. so what if they recommended a hakwon - they're teachers after all - who else should be recommending the hakwon? f*cking grocery clerks?
what a f*cked up education system in this country -  |
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Join Me
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
my bad for some strange unknown reason i assumed it was hagwon teachers recommending a different hagwon
brain before typing |
wait a minute tho - I still don't see the problem - weren't they just recruiting students? and getting paid to do so? what's wrong with that? how is that a "bribe?"
they weren't forging test scores or giving extra credit in the classroom; this seems to be something outside of the school. so what if they recommended a hakwon - they're teachers after all - who else should be recommending the hakwon? f*cking grocery clerks?
what a f*cked up education system in this country - |
Ah, maybe if they were recommending the Hawgwan based on merit it wouldn't be a problem. But if you are recommending a specific Hawgwan because you are receiving cash from the owner to spend on booze and hookers that is messed up. |
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moosehead
Joined: 05 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| Join Me wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
my bad for some strange unknown reason i assumed it was hagwon teachers recommending a different hagwon
brain before typing |
wait a minute tho - I still don't see the problem - weren't they just recruiting students? and getting paid to do so? what's wrong with that? how is that a "bribe?"
they weren't forging test scores or giving extra credit in the classroom; this seems to be something outside of the school. so what if they recommended a hakwon - they're teachers after all - who else should be recommending the hakwon? f*cking grocery clerks?
what a f*cked up education system in this country - |
Ah, maybe if they were recommending the Hawgwan based on merit it wouldn't be a problem. But if you are recommending a specific Hawgwan because you are receiving cash from the owner to spend on booze and hookers that is messed up. |
why?? how is that different from a recruiter seeking employees? and as someone else already pointed out - it's ultimately up to the parents to check it out further. |
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Join Me
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| moosehead wrote: |
| Join Me wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
| pkang0202 wrote: |
| blackjack wrote: |
How is it any different from using a doctor to endorse a drug, or an athlete to endorse shoes |
I guess the difference is that a Teacher is a government employee. |
my bad for some strange unknown reason i assumed it was hagwon teachers recommending a different hagwon
brain before typing |
wait a minute tho - I still don't see the problem - weren't they just recruiting students? and getting paid to do so? what's wrong with that? how is that a "bribe?"
they weren't forging test scores or giving extra credit in the classroom; this seems to be something outside of the school. so what if they recommended a hakwon - they're teachers after all - who else should be recommending the hakwon? f*cking grocery clerks?
what a f*cked up education system in this country - |
Ah, maybe if they were recommending the Hawgwan based on merit it wouldn't be a problem. But if you are recommending a specific Hawgwan because you are receiving cash from the owner to spend on booze and hookers that is messed up. |
why?? how is that different from a recruiter seeking employees? and as someone else already pointed out - it's ultimately up to the parents to check it out further. |
Because when you are on the publics' payroll (as a "public servant" no less) you have a duty to the act in the publics' interest as opposed to your own. This is especially true when the people you are supposed to be serving are children. |
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