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When Is a Disease not Korean?

 
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: When Is a Disease not Korean? Reply with quote

Well, I read this article and I thought diseases occur to anyone no matter the race.

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'Western-Type Diseases' Hit Koreans

By Michael Ha
Staff Reporter

Diabetes, heart diseases and other types of what are often referred to as ``Western-type diseases" are increasingly being found in Koreans in their 50s ? some 10 years earlier compared with patients in Western countries, experts announced.

``In Western countries, you see diabetes, heart diseases, and myocardial infarction mostly in people in their 60s. But in Korea, we are seeing patients who are 10 years younger," Dr. Kim Kwang-won from the Samsung Medical Center told The Korea Times.

Oh Dong-ju, a professor at Korea University Medical Center, also said cases of acute myocardial infarction are soaring among people in their 30s. ``Last year, in this age group, there were some 28,000 patients diagnosed with this."

There were quite a few cases where young people suddenly died from this," he observed.
Kim from the Samsung Medical Center said there were several factors contributing to this trend. ``Eating patterns have dramatically changed in Korea, especially for those in their 30s and 40s. First of all, don't we eat less vegetables now? We eat more meat products and fast foods. For example, a lot of office workers have a lunch of pizza and cola. So eating patterns have really changed compared to the past," Kim said.

He also noted the pervasive stress factor in Korea's hyper-competitive society. ``In Korea, everyone is constantly on the run. They are always sprinting, so to speak. Everyone is in a competitive state of mind, whether in school or at work. It's very intense, more so than many other Western countries," Kim said, adding that such a stressful environment can lead to the craving of unhealthy foods and excessive smoking.

``For these reasons, there are an increasing number of cases of high blood pressure, high blood sugar levels and diabetes among younger Koreans. They are occurring much faster, by about 10 years, when compared with Western countries."

Kim also said it was interesting because many people in Western countries are now embracing the concept of eating healthy foods from Asian countries, ``We are actually somewhat stuck in the past because many of us are consuming unhealthy Western foods from 20, 30 years ago. And many Koreans continue to favor fast food. But isn't that unhealthy?"

``Some people still seem to prefer western food and have turned their back on traditional food. We need to change this distortion in the eating concept," Kim said.

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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps we are affecting Korea's disease with people contracting major illnesses by eating foreign beef, no?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and the high smoking and drinking rates have nothing to do with it?

hmmm.....
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Whistleblower



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the article clearly blaming the foreign food for the cause of a 'Non-Korean Disease'. How can a disease have a nationality? I am curious whether the writer was applying positive or negative racism.

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Mr. BlackCat



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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Koreans are contracting diseases at a much higher rate and at a younger age than in the West, yet it's Western food that causing it? A nice steady diet of rotten cabbage, chicken bones and pig fat really is much better than a sandwich, afterall.

Naw, they got it all wrong. It's the fans.
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moosehead



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

especially poignant is the fact western food is so damn difficult to find here Shocked

walk into any convenience store and what do you see? crapola from the shelves to the kid's backpacks.

remember when snack parties were the rage in the hakwons? I'd take a taste just to see what the kids were so crazy about and couldn't believe how bad that stuff is!! OMG!!

and the preservatives!! food here is LOADED with preservatives, artificial chemicals, colors, way too much garbage!

diet soda is almost nonexistent, sugar overloaded in juice, drinks, everywhere. Skim milk just appeared a few months ago ?? I was drinking it in the U.S. since about 1977 maybe???!! come here and had to drink whole milk which is loaded with fat, what's called low fat milk is more like 2% or something.

whatever. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The label 'western' covers a lot of things, in this case 'developed' because it's true that the types of diseases typical of developed countries are a lot different than those of undeveloped ones. The increased incidence of these diseases is just another sign of Korea's developed status.

Many of the ills of modern society are blamed on 'western corrupting influences' here. At home we talk about the loss of traditional values or the problems of modern society. Here they can label such things 'western' as if alienation, say, was an integral part of western society from long ago.
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michael5799042



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans can now afford to eat all the fat, sugar and salt they want. This is the cause of the diseases. Just like in the west. But, here it is samgipsal and other local fatty foods that are the prime culprits.
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icicle



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But it is also true that a traditional Korean diet despite including a large amount of rice has actually been shown in research to lead to lower blood glucose levels ... prime positive elements are kimchi and the soybean paste and high vegetable levels ...

At the same time the traditional Korean diet does appear to lead to higher levels of stomach cancer ...

But in this article blaming the higher level of "western" diet for the increase in those diseases what they are saying is essentially what research from both Korea and other Western countries have said about the reason historically for much lower levels in Korea in such things as diabetes and heart disease ... the traditional diet ...

I can at least short term support the fact that a traditional Korean diet will lead to better control of blood glucose levels than a normal western diet (even a low GI one) ... I have Type 2 diabetes and had reasonable but not really good control of my BGL ... But for a number of reasons including financial ones I have been eating a primarily Korean diet for the last month ... including rice and kimchi in at least 2 meals a day ... And have had the best control I have ever had ... despite eating what to me was a large amount of white rice (which I would normally have avoided) at most meals ...

I think that there is actually probably a reasonable level of validity in what they are saying in the article...
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michael5799042



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A traditional Western diet and lifestyle was also healthy. Isn't the mediterranean diet supposed to be the best in the world? The problem is that they are making the same mistakes Westerners made- but their own version of it. Western fast food is not healthy and neither is most korean fast- street food.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: When Is a Disease not Korean? Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
Well, I read this article and I thought diseases occur to anyone no matter the race.



Aside from what people have pointed out about the Western diet, diseases do strike people differently according to race (although I'm not really sure if you were arguing against that.) Skin cancer strikes white people, sickle cell strikes black people, and bad pop music grows like cancer across asia.
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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once worked in a hagwon where the only thing I ate during the breaks was ramyen-- I did this several times a week and eventually had to stop because I couldn't stop my hands from shaking, I could hear my heartbeat in my head, and I got a terrible head rush every time I stood up.

Last time I checked, there wasn't an enormous ramyen aisle in every Western supermarket and convenience store.

SO WHY can't they just say they're eating unhealthy food now?? Why does it have to be WESTERN food?

I would actually feel bad about hating this place if they would just stop blaming everyone else for their own problems. It's incredible how self-unaware they are, considering how much time is spent in front of the mirror everyday.
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icicle



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

michael5799042 wrote:
A traditional Western diet and lifestyle was also healthy. Isn't the mediterranean diet supposed to be the best in the world? The problem is that they are making the same mistakes Westerners made- but their own version of it. Western fast food is not healthy and neither is most korean fast- street food.


What do you consider to be included in a "traditional" Western diet?

The Mediteranean diet was only the traditional diet in some western countries ...

What is true is that just as the Western diet in many countries is becoming more "healthy", picking up on many of the good aspects of traditional Asian food ... some Asian countries are picking up on some of the "unhealthy" dimensions of western food ... leading to an increase in some diseases which are traditionally less common in those countries
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESL Milk "Everyday wrote:
I once worked in a hagwon where the only thing I ate during the breaks was ramyen-- I did this several times a week and eventually had to stop because I couldn't stop my hands from shaking, I could hear my heartbeat in my head, and I got a terrible head rush every time I stood up.

Last time I checked, there wasn't an enormous ramyen aisle in every Western supermarket and convenience store.

SO WHY can't they just say they're eating unhealthy food now?? Why does it have to be WESTERN food?

I would actually feel bad about hating this place if they would just stop blaming everyone else for their own problems. It's incredible how self-unaware they are, considering how much time is spent in front of the mirror everyday.


Looky here:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=western+diet

Koreans didn't make up the term "Western Diet". It's a poor catch-all term that was probably made up in the West. And it includes highly processed foods and refined grains, so ramen actually is actually part of it.

I feel like we're turning into the white version of the PC police, where you can't say "sit indian style" for fear of offending native americans and you can't use the term "western diet" for fear of offending the english teachers.

That said, I do hear what your saying. Koreans and Asians in general have been wringing their hands for the last century about becoming too Westernized, and sometimes this anxiety manifests itself it weird ways.
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ryouga013



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea: Moderation isn't an option

"Western lifestyle" + "Korean lifestyle" = dead 20 years earlier than either lifestyle alone
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