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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| These posts lead one to believe that it is past due for "BIG bird" to hit the gym and pass on the Krispy Kreme. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| KirbyMagnus wrote: |
You guys are having a hard time with this. True Beauty cannot be judged on looks alone. That is not PC or any other rubbish, anybody who is a true human being knows this. The cynicism on Dave's astounds me sometimes.
There is no harm in saying an older woman looks beautiful. Unless you are threatened? |
sorry but MORE nonsense.
"true" beauty?? as opposed to what?
just beauty?
shallow beauty?
incomplete beauty?
why are you so intent on EXPANDING the most universally accepted definition?
if you are so intent on using the adjective, there is NOTHING wrong with using it to preface what you are trying to say...e.g. she is a beautiful person.... she has lived or lives a beautiful life....Her life story is beautiful.
blah blah etc etc etc
SEE the difference? You're perfectly free to believe that calling a woman a beautiful person is a far superior compliment to calling her a beautiful woman (and I'd probably agree!) please stop hijacking the dictionary.
P.s. MAGGIE Gyllenhaal?
you'd put her in the same SENTENCE as Aishwaraya Rai or Padma Lakshi?
you have to be kidding me.
I wouldn't give her a second look anywhere.
you can be my wingman anytime, since there will never be any friction and or cockblocking.
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
| These posts lead one to believe that it is past due for "BIG bird" to hit the gym and pass on the Krispy Kreme. |
Why would you be fantasising about the body of an unseen poster on the net? Perhaps you share Bogey's secret (and for him, shameful) penchant for larger ladies. Then here is the perfect website for you: http://www.largefriends.com/?tid=af1014482. May your dreams come true.  |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
| These posts lead one to believe that it is past due for "BIG bird" to hit the gym and pass on the Krispy Kreme. |
Why would you be fantasising about the body of an unseen poster on the net? Perhaps you share Bogey's secret (and for him, shameful) penchant for larger ladies. Then here is the perfect website for you: http://www.largefriends.com/?tid=af1014482. May your dreams come true. |
nah. no penchant and no secret, trust me.
the secret would be I did several fatties in my misguided and desperate youth. Then I matured  and realized how desperate and embarrasing that was.
actually the breaking point was the last fattie I did..and this was some time ago now... as the alcohol and pot wore off, I found myself in her bed after the party at her house.. shortly after "the deed", desperately wanting to chew my arm off, as I realized what I had done and whom I had done it with.
that was my last ever fattie. We all live and learn. it's also one of the very few times in my life I got seriously fucked up on marijuana (and the last time). I was more lit up that night than the Rockefeller Center Plaza Christmas tree in NYC. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Why are you so desperate to assure us you don't sleep with fatties? I find it quite fascinating, as I'm assuming you are no longer seventeen years old... |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| Why are you so desperate to assure us you don't sleep with fatties? I find it quite fascinating, as I'm assuming you are no longer seventeen years old... |
No need to assure anyone. Besides, what point would it serve?
and why would anyone care whether I do/did ot not?
but I do find it amusing that someone would insinuate that they are a fetish of mine, when the truth couldn't be more diametrically opposite.
Anyways.. it's a good thing most people still abuse drugs and alcohol (I choose not to).. this means even fat people get laid too. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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| You seem desperately to care what people think of you. I've viewed your posts on a number of threads, and if I hadn't read that you'd been to university, I would have assumed you to be a teenager, painfully selfconscious and desperate to prove his worth. Your posts resemble a teenager's in other ways too... You still seem very young. And not in a complementary sense. You write like a highschool jock (or wannabe jock). Perhaps you might review your posts, and reflect on it a bit, and hopefully you'll get what I mean. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:51 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| You seem desperately to care what people think of you. I've viewed your posts on a number of threads, and if I hadn't read that you'd been to university, I would have assumed you to be a teenager, painfully selfconscious and desperate to prove his worth. Your posts resemble a teenager's in other ways too... You still seem very young. And not in a complementary sense. You write like a highschool jock (or wannabe jock). Perhaps you might review your posts, and reflect on it a bit, and hopefully you'll get what I mean. |
Ok Mom. thanks for the feedback.
I do care how people think of me in certain ways.. don't give a flying rat's ass in others.
so be careful in your pidgeonholing
always wanted to be a highschool jock. Never got the chance. I was a late bloomer of sorts. Don't mind that so much now |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
But I do still find your trigger-finger evolutionary reductionism amusing. Aesthetics comprise more than sexuality. So, in that sense, the analogy with the sunset stands. Both the sunset and the woman involve appraisals of aesthetics. I think Big Bird has a strong defense, because she never asked whether the woman was F*ckable, but you still muster a defense as to that being naturally first and foremost in your mind. You can argue that is because you are governed by evolutionary laws of nature, it was only natural to go there. But the all-too-willingness to be governed by the least, and stupidest, common denominator is not enough to erase considerations of aesthetic appeal altogether. |
Do we ask the same of someone when we ask "is [a person] beautiful?" and ""is the sky beautiful?"? Do we ask the same of someone when we ask "is the cat beautiful?" as we do the previous questions? No, we don't. We have different reasons for finding (or not finding) people, animals and the sky beautiful. Considering 50% or more of this audience is heterosexual male, and physical beauty is clearly related to sexuality, the sexuality aspect is more crucial here than mere aesthetics.
And can someone who voted "yes" please explain why she is beautiful? Stormy answered. Can others? I think she wouldn't look remotely out of place in a George Romero film. Or she could be Norman Bates' mother (when she was alive).
| Big Bird wrote: |
| You seem desperately to care what people think of you. I've viewed your posts on a number of threads, and if I hadn't read that you'd been to university, I would have assumed you to be a teenager, painfully selfconscious and desperate to prove his worth. Your posts resemble a teenager's in other ways too... You still seem very young. And not in a complementary sense. You write like a highschool jock (or wannabe jock). Perhaps you might review your posts, and reflect on it a bit, and hopefully you'll get what I mean. |
I think he did a good job, hence your failure to address any of his points. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| I think he did a good job, hence your failure to address any of his points. |
I mostly stopped addressing his posts when I realised he was either a certified tw@t, or only 17 years old. I mostly do a quick scroll down when I see his name these days. Too much blathering on. BTW, a few posters here, including Kuros and KM have done a good job of arguing against your point very well. Therefore I don't feel inclined to address it. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: |
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| big bird wrote: |
| I mostly stopped addressing his posts when I realised he was either a certified tw@t, or only 17 years old |
You used that as an excuse to not address his points because you can't, you mean.
| Big Bird wrote: |
| BTW, a few posters here, including Kuros and KM have done a good job of arguing against your point very well. Therefore I don't feel inclined to address it |
What were their most compelling points? |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| big bird wrote: |
| I mostly stopped addressing his posts when I realised he was either a certified tw@t, or only 17 years old |
You used that as an excuse to not address his points because you can't, you mean.
| Big Bird wrote: |
| BTW, a few posters here, including Kuros and KM have done a good job of arguing against your point very well. Therefore I don't feel inclined to address it |
What were their most compelling points? |
I think in regards to Kirby Magnus his "compelling point" was that we were being too shallow and small minded to understand and recognize something called
"true beauty".
I'm still awaiting the definition of "true" beauty and how it differs from just "beauty", and what is this "truth" that we are not seeing,
save politically correct hijacking of the dictionary.
instead of saying beautiful person.. etc to ensure the meaning they are trying to confer, they insist on sabotaging the Mirriam-Webster definition based on "aesthetics", which mean one thing when relating to a landscape or sunset.. and another when relating to a person's appearance. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| big bird wrote: |
| I mostly stopped addressing his posts when I realised he was either a certified tw@t, or only 17 years old |
You used that as an excuse to not address his points because you can't, you mean. |
No, it's not an excuse. It's fact. There are certain posters I don't bother to read, and I consigned him to that category several nights ago, after a silly exchange we had on this thread. Time is too short when you are a mother of 2 tiny children, and a postgraduate student to boot, to waste time on anything you find tiresome and tedious. Bogey's probably straight out of uni, given his posting style, and needs a couple more years to ripen. On top of that, the very beautiful bottom he's chosen for his avatar means that when I'm in the public library, I have to scroll past his posts very quickly because it's too inappropriate to display it on my monitor.
You would like it to be an excuse, because, from what I've skimmed, it seems Bogey's views are somewhat aligned with yours. [I'm not entirely sure of that, and I can't be bothered to verify it]. That way, you can kid yourself that your argument is so watertight that Big_Bird is not able to refute it. Wrong.
| The resident evolutionary psychologist wrote: |
| Big Bird wrote: |
| BTW, a few posters here, including Kuros and KM have done a good job of arguing against your point very well. Therefore I don't feel inclined to address it |
What were their most compelling points? |
Simple. Your definition of beauty is too narrowly defined. You can not accept that beauty does not always refer to sexual attractiveness, especially when it comes to straight men apraising a woman. You try to speak for all men and claim that this is so, and yet Kirby and Kuros are the counterexamples that disprove your argument. You have exchanged Allah or Jehovah for that great evolutionary psychologist in the sky, and you worship him endlessly. You try to relate everything you do to passing on your genes. But not all of us see the world as you. You basically chastise me for not treating all the male posters here as if they were nothing more than life support systems for their penises. I do believe that some men are more highly evolved than that, and can also enjoy and appreciate the world outside a sexual context.
When I watched Troy the other night, I really enjoyed watching Brad Pitt and Eric Bana. Both of them appeared very beautiful in that film, and I soaked up their pleasing forms with my eyes. But I didn't find myself fancying them. Peter O'Toole is still a very beautiful man, even now, and I enjoyed him too. Again, I felt no sexual attraction. I also enjoyed the beauty of the actress who played Helen (even though even she wasn't quite as beautiful as breathtakingly beautiful Brad Pitt). I don't associate beauty with sexual attraction, as you do. Not everyone is you. Not everyone experiences the world as you do. Not even other men.
Another example of beauty is the touching scene of a wrinkled old grandparent holding their grandchild. Nothing sexual about it. Gary Oldman playing a frail aging and heartbroken Beethoven -another example. There is so much beauty to be found in this world, that you seem incapable of seeing. I imagine you think I'm just being daft. But you are just blind to it. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: |
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In the OP, the lighting isn't doing her any favors, but it's still plain that she's got incredible bone structure, and I think the silver hair is wonderful. In the pics posted of her on page 3, she looks older certainly, but hardly dowdy or ugly amongst a bevy of younger models.
I can only dream that I age as gracefully. |
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planthopps
Joined: 05 May 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The woman is beautiful for her age. She has incredible bone structure and class. When she was younger she probably resembled Niki Taylor or Linda Evangelista. She looks healthy for her age and wise. |
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