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Premature baby and immigration

 
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Darrish



Joined: 16 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Premature baby and immigration Reply with quote

My wife is currently in the hospital. There have been complications with her pregnancy and it appears she is not going to be able to carry the baby to full term. The doctors are going to induce and try to deliver the baby next week, which is still about six weeks early.

Obviously, we are both nervous but everyone is confident the baby will survive. She will just need to stay in the hospital for at least a month after being born. Here's where the problem comes in - my wife and I are both American and have to get a passport for the baby pretty much immediately in order to get her visa processed as a dependent. I am aware that Korean immigration has a one month grace period for getting the paperwork complete on infants. However, this isn't possible if she's premature and in an incubator for a month.

Our contract is up in August and we plan to leave Korea and return to the US.

Does anyone have any experience with immigration concerning a situation like this? I'm aware this is a fairly unique circumstance but I hope that someone could provide input on where to proceed from here.
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried going to the embassy? Your situation is unique and immigration might need someone with a bit of push to get your point accross. Or maybe the embassy as usual is worthless.
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what Americans have to provide for a passport/citizenship, but for me (Canada) and some other friends (Australian), the baby doesn't have to be present for the paperwork to be submitted and your application to go through.

My Australian friend had a premature baby and took the passport picture with a digital camera with the appropriate background as specified on the application guidelines, had it cropped at a photo-printshop and submitted that with the appropriate papers (Birth Certificate, Parents' Paperwork, Application Form, etc...).

Good luck with everything and congrats, dad!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IF neither of the parents is a Korean national:
Take a photo of the baby. Take it to a photo shop and get it cropped to match the requirements for the passport.

Take your documents to the embassy, register the birth with YOUR embassy and apply for the baby's passport.

Take the receipt and documents (from the baby's birth registration and passport application) to immigration and register the baby. You will be within the 30 day period and stay legal.

When you get the passport back, pop into immigration again (at your convenience) and get the F3 stamped into the passport and apply for baby's ARC.

This is all assuming one of the parents is NOT Korean.

IF one of the parents is a Korean national, the 30 day registration requirement is gone. Register the baby at the GU office like any Korean national. Get the baby's US passport at your convenience.

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Darrish



Joined: 16 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, as US citizens we both have to be there with child in order to proceed with documentation.

From http://seoul.usembassy.gov/report_of_birth.html

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You must bring your child to the U.S. Embassy or a U.S. military passport acceptance agency in order to complete the CRBA and passport applications. The applications must be signed by both parents before an U.S. consular officer or a designated military official. Only the child's parents or legal guardian may apply on the child's behalf.


I have not tried to contact the US embassy about this issue yet as this had just occurred last week and we hadn't even thought of the legal/visa regulations until yesterday.
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icicle



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go with what the previous posters have said - Your case is clearly a case outside of the ordinary - Under normal circumstances you would have no problem in taking your baby with you - But you will -

So as soon as the baby is born - In your position I would contact the Embassy and ask them what you will need to do to get the passport for your baby - so that you can do things within the 30 day timeframe - I would be very suprised if they don't have procedures in place for situations like this - Or at the very least alternative options they can use in exception cases -
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Zaria32



Joined: 04 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just get a letter from the doctor in Korean and English saying the baby can't leave the hospital. No biggie...
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jbpatlanta



Joined: 02 Jun 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no 30 day requirement to get the baby's passport. The 30 days is only for immigration. Since you both are Americans you have to register the birth at immigration. As long as you start a file with them you can wait longer than 30 days.

Get a letter from the doctor stating the baby has to stay in the hospital. Take that to immigration and tell them. They will open a file for your baby. After you get the passport, go back to immigration.
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello all,

Our baby was born this past Thursday on May 29. He was a few weeks early but right at the leading edge of what's considered normal for the term I guess.

Anyway, we brought him home on the weekend...sleepless nights are sooooo lovely.

My wife is Korean. So as I understand from checking the Embassy site, and from what I've read, as long as we register the baby's birth at the nearest Gu office (I guess city hall in our case), I can take my time getting him his Canadian passport. Is this right?

Any extra info anyone has to add would be much welcomed.

Cheers
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, I really hope everything is alright and I really want to wish you and your new family the best of luck under the circumstances.

I'd go to the US Embassy's Citizen's Service Center and get the guidelines you need to help you apply for your child's passport. And if a passport is needed, if I were you, I'd spare no expense in trying to expedite the application if it is possible......and necessary......


Again, best of luck to you
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Katchafire



Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Location: Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prairieboy wrote:
Hello all,

Our baby was born this past Thursday on May 29. He was a few weeks early but right at the leading edge of what's considered normal for the term I guess.

Anyway, we brought him home on the weekend...sleepless nights are sooooo lovely.

My wife is Korean. So as I understand from checking the Embassy site, and from what I've read, as long as we register the baby's birth at the nearest Gu office (I guess city hall in our case), I can take my time getting him his Canadian passport. Is this right?

Any extra info anyone has to add would be much welcomed.

Cheers



Congrats to you Prairieboy, and all the best to you and yours also Darrish
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations prairieboy! Yes, documents at your convenience...but do it soon. The longer you wait, for some reason, the longer it takes to get them. If you apply right away, you should have him squared away pretty quickly.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prairieboy wrote:
Hello all,

Our baby was born this past Thursday on May 29. He was a few weeks early but right at the leading edge of what's considered normal for the term I guess.

Anyway, we brought him home on the weekend...sleepless nights are sooooo lovely.

My wife is Korean. So as I understand from checking the Embassy site, and from what I've read, as long as we register the baby's birth at the nearest Gu office (I guess city hall in our case), I can take my time getting him his Canadian passport. Is this right?

Any extra info anyone has to add would be much welcomed.

Cheers


Congrats...

Since the baby is Korean by birth (Korean parent) There is NO rush to get the Canadian passport and birth registration BUT the sooner you do it, the easier it will be.

Make sure you get an English copy of the birth report from the Hospital. they should print a couple off for you if you request them (usually at no charge).

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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an update on the progress so far.

My wife went to the gu office yesterday and registered the birth of our son. He now has a Korean ID number. So he has Korean citizenship.

This means that I don't have to rush with the Canadian side because there will not be any Korean immigration issues with my son.

I will update on the process with the Canadian Embassy and Citizenship process when I do it for my son.

Cheers
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Darrish



Joined: 16 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here's my update to this story. The baby was born last Thursday via c-section and has currently been in an incubator since that point. She is doing very good and the doctor is confident she will be out in two weeks.

The nurses told me I had to register the birth of my baby at the local office. I already have a birth certificate from the hospital and my child is not eligible for Korean citizenship so I assumed they must be confused. We were told we the first non Korean couple to ever have a baby at the hospital.
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