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Korea - No Country for Old Men
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Korea - No Country for Old Men Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm a lifer here. I admit it. It used to make me somewhat ashamed
at how long I have spent here. (over 12 years) But, not anymore. I have
seen many people march out of Korea swearing profusely they would
never return, only to be back 6 months later with tales of crap jobs, no
jobs, high taxes, paying tips etc., etc.

Korea has a lot going for it. Good money, low taxes, largely non-violent
if somewhat hot-headed and impulsive population. However it is
definitely NOT someplace I want to retire in. The absence of cultural
diversity, high prices, winter, a lack of sensitivity to foreigners and
their needs. It is unfortunate for Korea because I'll be taking a sizable
chunk of cash with me when my family and I leave.

Korea is like the purgatory of foreign countries. You put in your time
here and then when you reach a certain age and savings level you
split.

I don't know who to blame for the bad taste Korea leaves in a lot of
people's mouths. Is it the population density? Is it the fact Korea was
one of the poorest countries in Asia only 50 years ago and now they
have a culture vacuum that is filled with corporate manufactured crap?
Is it the political left?

I REALLY don't know, but Thailand, here I come! - Eventually
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you'd rather raise your children in thailand than Korea?
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
you'd rather raise your children in thailand than Korea?


who said that is where he is moving? Confused
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Cohiba



Joined: 01 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thailand actually IS a business hub. There are a LOT of services
for foreigners including international schools where my kids will
not be singled out in class for having a white devil's blood coursing
through their veins. However, I think the study mentality drilled into
Korean kids at an early age is a beneficial thing. When these kids leave
Korea and study abroad it is relatively easy for them to excel. But
I don't want my kids going through a Korean high school experience.
I think that experience breaks their spirit, crushes their creativity
and burns them out in their teens.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I REALLY don't know, but Thailand, here I come! - Eventually


yeah, what made you think he'd move to thailand??
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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now they
have a culture vacuum that is filled with corporate manufactured crap?


Very true.
The chaebol have fashioned Korea into just what they want. A merciless consumerist merry-go-round.

I'll probably stay until my wife and I have enough money to move somewhere where life is seen as something to enjoy. Not just endure.

I'm looking forward to living somewhere with lots of golf courses, international cuisine and spending my days in socks, sandals and shorts!

Me and buddies in 15 years......
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Korea and could live there a long time. But my old dream of being an old dude on the corner in a lawn chair bugging catholic school girls will be a hard dream to see to fruition in Korea.
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hopefully by the time I am that old I'll be a cyborg and have nano-technology keeping my brain from turning into a useless pile of goo.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
Thailand actually IS a business hub. There are a LOT of services
for foreigners including international schools where my kids will
not be singled out in class for having a white devil's blood coursing
through their veins. However, I think the study mentality drilled into
Korean kids at an early age is a beneficial thing. When these kids leave
Korea and study abroad it is relatively easy for them to excel. But
I don't want my kids going through a Korean high school experience.
I think that experience breaks their spirit, crushes their creativity
and burns them out in their teens.


I actually think it's us parents that learn the studying mentality from koreans, not the kids. I never looked at school the way I do now that I've been in Korea for 5 years. You can see how easy it would be to get your kid way ahead of most Canadian kids, who are too busy watching TV, playing video games, playing sports, and jerking around. It's not difficult to get an 80+ average, with P.E., English, and Social Studies as core classes. Get a tutor to make sure your kid is doing well in math and science, and your kid is a lock for gov't scholarships. Just focus on math and french and your kid is guaranteed of a job in the federal govt in Canada or in the private sector.
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toddswift



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: Korea - No Country for Old Men Reply with quote

Cohiba wrote:
Yeah, I'm a lifer here. I admit it. It used to make me somewhat ashamed
at how long I have spent here. (over 12 years) But, not anymore. I have
seen many people march out of Korea swearing profusely they would
never return, only to be back 6 months later with tales of crap jobs, no
jobs, high taxes, paying tips etc., etc.

Korea has a lot going for it. Good money, low taxes, largely non-violent
if somewhat hot-headed and impulsive population. However it is
definitely NOT someplace I want to retire in. The absence of cultural
diversity, high prices, winter, a lack of sensitivity to foreigners and
their needs. It is unfortunate for Korea because I'll be taking a sizable
chunk of cash with me when my family and I leave.

Korea is like the purgatory of foreign countries. You put in your time
here and then when you reach a certain age and savings level you
split.

I don't know who to blame for the bad taste Korea leaves in a lot of
people's mouths. Is it the population density? Is it the fact Korea was
one of the poorest countries in Asia only 50 years ago and now they
have a culture vacuum that is filled with corporate manufactured crap?
Is it the political left?

I REALLY don't know, but Thailand, here I come! - Eventually





your lucky!


great beer, great food, great people. I will always love the Thai culture.

good luck!
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Just focus on math and french and your kid is guaranteed of a job in the federal govt in Canada


DARE TO DREAM!!!
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddycakes wrote:
Quote:
Just focus on math and french and your kid is guaranteed of a job in the federal govt in Canada


DARE TO DREAM!!!


Nothing wrong with having guaranteed job prospects that pay well and come with lots of vacation time. I want my child to have as many opportunities as he can. Bilingual/Trilingual ability opens many doors in Canada.
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bogey666



Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: Korea - No Country for Old Men Reply with quote

if I ever look like those fatsos on the golf course and you catch me dressed like that at ANY age.. please shoot me.

please.

re Korea and moving on.

I'm beginning to think of Korea as a replenishing oasis of sorts..
meaning you can for e.g. spend a couple of years teaching here. then go teach somewhere you'd really like to live for a year.. then come back when you need to make some money again.

etc
etc
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thematrixiam



Joined: 31 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
Paddycakes wrote:
Quote:
Just focus on math and french and your kid is guaranteed of a job in the federal govt in Canada


DARE TO DREAM!!!


Nothing wrong with having guaranteed job prospects that pay well and come with lots of vacation time. I want my child to have as many opportunities as he can. Bilingual/Trilingual ability opens many doors in Canada.


remember why peter pan left his parents!
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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remember why peter pan left his parents!


He wanted to go work for Canada Post?
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