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18, 19 y.o. foreigners to teach here soon??
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:33 am    Post subject: 18, 19 y.o. foreigners to teach here soon?? Reply with quote

This year 2008 - it has been very hard and difficult for schools and academies to find foreign teachers...

in 2007 - many foreigners left - due to different reasons - criminal records, drug-taking, just sick off Koreans, "harsher/stricter rules" in order to acquire a visa, rising cost of living etc etc etc

in 2008 many schools and academies have been advertising on numerous websites for foreign teachers for 5~7 months - without being able to get a foreign teacher....

this has caused salaries to rise from 2.2/2.4 million per month up to 2.8/3.0 million per month for teachers who only teach 4~6 hours per day at elementary schools and academies...

due to this the Korean government recently invited Philippine and Indian nationals to come and teach in rural Korean schools....

The Korean government has now announced that from December, 2008 - any foreigner from USA, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, South Africa who is ONLY 18 or 19 years old - BUT is enrolled in a University can obtain an E-2 visa and teach/live in Korea - even though they DO NOT have a degree...
the only requirement, - they just have to be enrolled in a University course...

I do not have any sources for this - but was told by an immigration officer friend of mine...

does somebody know about this and have any sources.,....

I find it shocking...

18 and 19 year old university students will come here and bring our salaries back down - after all the shit we (the people who have stayed in Korea for many years had to go through to obtain and keep our visas)...

Academies and Public schools will much prefer to hirer a younger cuter/prettier CHEAPER (18/19 y.o.) teacher than those of us who have many years experiences teaching here - so we will lose out - and be forced to take lower salaries or leave....

if anyone knows about this or has sources - could you please post it here...

I will post the sources in a couple of days - but it will be from a Korean newspaper - and someone will need to interpret them into English...

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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see it happening... it's just too off the wall. Confirm before you post next time, too. The rumour mill is always churning.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
I can't see it happening... it's just too off the wall. Confirm before you post next time, too. The rumour mill is always churning.


I am asking someone to give me sources and confirm it for me - I am always involved with HIGH ranking immigration, company etc officials everyday - I get told all the news - (word-of-mouth)...

there are other people on this forum very good with getting the actual source straight from the media...

I was hoping someone else could confirm it for me....

(I remember 3 years ago - when I was the first person to post on here and tell people that we would have to give "sealed transcripts" to immigration for the very first time -

every told me - I had no sources and that I was a troll...

it was 3 months later - it was published in the newspapers...

everybody soon knew they had to give their "sealed transscripts to immigration" - but noone apoligised to me for calling me a troll..

soon - someone (or myself) will post the sources for this news - then you "might" believe...

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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It boggles the mind... do you have any idea how long an 18 or 19 year old North American kid would last teaching English in Korea? I don't think it would help at all. Some would stay, sure, but the vast majority of 'em wouldn't last for more than three months and the government would shit-can the whole idea before it got off the ground.
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Return Jones



Joined: 06 Feb 2004
Location: I will see you in far-off places

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: 18, 19 y.o. foreigners to teach here soon?? Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:
this has caused salaries to rise from 2.2/2.4 million per month up to 2.8/3.0 million per month...


Where are these 2.8-3.0 million per months jobs? Oh right, there aren't any. Korean business doesn't operate on the same supply demand curve that Western business does. If they don't want to pay a certain price, they don't and simply let their business run into the ground.

The ads may say 2.8 but they won't actually give it to you, or anybody for that matter.
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Zutronius



Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Suncheon

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bars would be filled at night and the classes empty by day.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bring them on. It won't affect my job. I can see them taking very rural hogwan jobs for 1.5 mil a month and no pension.
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SarcasmKills



Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would've had a riot here when I was 18 or 19...

Lucky bastards.
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Imrahil



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
Location: On the other side of the world.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this idea does happen, could you imagine the stories in the newspapers here! Think about it, you will have 18 and 19 year old honry men here making decent salaries. First the 18 year old's would be drinking underage here. Second once the find the 'adult' entertainment here, all hell will break loose! The newspaper articles would never end!
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weird...they don't trust those of us in our twenties and thirties to not be junkie pederasts, and they think western teenagers are more responsible?
madness...
think of that, eh? teenage teachers teaching kids one or two years younger than them!
i don't think the immie guys have any conception of how incredibly depraved teenagers really are.
I guess they could always just hire the really well-behaved ones--but what the hell would they come here for? not much money and no benefits? and no credits toward their degree? madness! it'll only attract the slackers who want to come and booze it up and have fun.
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Imrahil



Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blurgalurgalurga, exactly this is a really stupid idea if they are considering it! If they do let the Filipino's and Indians in I would be okay with that, as long as they have degrees. Why lets teenagers in who just want to party drink and try to get laid. My god, the scandals would be 10 times worse. Also if they are anything like the teenagers I went to university with, my god there would be drug busts everyday! If this is true, they really haven't thought this through.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful before you stereotype all 18 and 19 year olds. Their teaching abilities aside, we are already denouncing them a sex-crazed, alcoholic fiends, the same thing Koreans (or Korean media) do to us.
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EVERYBODY PANIC!
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a minute... If these kids are enrolled in a uni course, they would put their uni back home on hold, come here for what, a year, and then leave to finish their degree? Sounds like this could be trouble in more ways than one...
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it's full of stars



Joined: 26 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it sounds hilarious, I hope it happens. Then we can export gangs of chavs who won't take kindly to the snide looks and sneers. I can't wait to see a gang of burberry and trackie wearing chavs in nike trainers bottling the *beep* out of these mummy's boys. The stolen car rates would go through the roof.
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