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bogey666



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Men prefer being solo over a bad marriage Reply with quote

Of course what the article fails to address is that for many men a bad marriage is not a bad marriage, but a financial DISASTER (it's the man most of the time that gets reamed in a divorce settlement)

Guys need that like they need a hole in their heads

they touch on that issue, but it should be stressed more than it is.

interestingly enough when in Latin America- it was the WOMEN who had a saying "mejor estar sola que mal acompanada" (better to be alone than with "bad" company" - the meaning is a little deeper in Spanish)

basically rather be alone than with some asswipe.








Men prefer being solo over a bad marriage: study By Belinda Goldsmith
Mon Jun 2, 1:26 AM ET



SYDNEY (Reuters Life!) - Bachelor Carl Weisman got fed up of being classified as a playboy, a loser or a commitment-phobe so he set out to find out exactly why he and a growing number of eligible men were steering clear of marriage.



Weisman, 49, conducted a survey of 1,533 heterosexual men to research a book aiming to give women an insight into why some smart, successful men opted to stay single -- and help lifelong bachelors understand why they are still the solo man at parties.

He concluded that most men were not afraid of marriage -- but they were afraid of a bad marriage.

"Men are 10 times more scared of marrying the wrong person than of never getting married at all," Weisman told Reuters in a telephone interview.

"This is the first generation of people who have grown up with bad divorces. People assume there is something wrong if you don't marry but these are men who have made a different choice and not given in to social pressures."

The release of his book "So Why Have You Never Been Married? - Ten Insights into Why He Hasn't Wed," comes amid a growing trend for more people to stay single, with less social or religious pressures on men -- and women -- to tie the knot.

Weisman said U.S. figures showed that in 1980 about 6 percent of men aged in their early 40s had never married but this number had now risen to 17 percent.

AFRAID TO MAKE MISTAKES

Weisman said his online survey found there are three groups of bachelors -- about 8 percent who never want to marry, 62 percent want to marry but of which half won't settle for anything less than perfection, and about 30 percent who are on the fence.

Four out of 10 bachelors did not want children compared to three out of 10 wanting to be a father. The rest were undecided.

But while 72 percent of respondents said they were not afraid of marriage, about half of them said the situation that scared them most was marrying the wrong person.

"It's so important to these men to get it right. My best advice to single women after bachelors is to be patient. If you're in a hurry to get married you'll be frustrated," he said.

Weisman also found that financial issues, both positive and negative, played a large part in men's fear of commitment.

"Those with little money said they would have nothing to offer a partner, with some suffering self-esteem issues and withdrawing from the dating pool," said Weisman, an engineer-turned-author with two books now published.

"While those who are financially sound were terrified what a bad divorce could do to them."

Weisman said his research blew away any idea that single men were unhappy.

"A compelling issue was how many of them had found contentment in a never-married life," he said. "They had created lives full of careers, friends and ambitions. It was not like they walk around all day worried about not being married."

For him, researching the book made him also look at himself -- and he ended up living with a girlfriend for the first time.

"Now we're looking at getting married. As I researched the book I found I was looking at men 10 years older than me and it was like looking into the future. If I didn't change, nothing would," he said.

(Editing by Miral Fahmy)
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Smee



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course what the article fails to address is that for many men a bad marriage is not a bad marriage, but a financial DISASTER (it's the man most of the time that gets reamed in a divorce settlement)


Well, yeah, good point, and it's irresponsible and just stupid for the article not to point that out. For men a bad marriage isn't an "oops" moment, a learning experience, or fodder for a romantic comedy. It's something that will keep the financial handcuffs on him for a very long time, to say nothing of the emotional damage he'll deal with, same as any woman. While I've never been keen on marriage, it's crossed my mind a lot living in Korea and also having a lot of my family and peers get married . . . but a woman would really have to woo and wow me, rather than the other way around, for me to consider taking such a huge gamble with my life. 50% of marriages ending in divorce aren't good odds, it should go without saying.
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bogey666



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
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Of course what the article fails to address is that for many men a bad marriage is not a bad marriage, but a financial DISASTER (it's the man most of the time that gets reamed in a divorce settlement)


Well, yeah, good point, and it's irresponsible and just stupid for the article not to point that out. For men a bad marriage isn't an "oops" moment, a learning experience, or fodder for a romantic comedy. It's something that will keep the financial handcuffs on him for a very long time, to say nothing of the emotional damage he'll deal with, same as any woman. While I've never been keen on marriage, it's crossed my mind a lot living in Korea and also having a lot of my family and peers get married . . . but a woman would really have to woo and wow me, rather than the other way around, for me to consider taking such a huge gamble with my life. 50% of marriages ending in divorce aren't good odds, it should go without saying.


in fairness they point it out.
but it's kept somewhat "muted", merely a part of a larger picture.

where the reality is it's probably a front and center issue.

I'd bet you if people got divorced like they do in Cuba (you take out of marriage basically what you brought in, and split dual property) then there would be many more marriages Smile
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
While I've never been keen on marriage, it's crossed my mind a lot living in Korea and also having a lot of my family and peers get married . . . but a woman would really have to woo and wow me, rather than the other way around, for me to consider taking such a huge gamble with my life.

I'm in no way against marriage, but this article was written for me. I went through a terrible engagement when I was younger, and I thank Dog that we never did end up married, but the whole experience has definitely changed how I see marriage. "Once bitten, twice shy", a bad marriage is something I want to avoid at all costs.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if the whole point of marriage wasn't to allow predatory women to bully, abuse and rob men, the whole idea would still seem bizarre to me. The very idea of wanting to have sex with the same old, fat, ugly women over and over again for years (if you can get it up and she lets you) has surely got to rank as one of the most peculiar sexual deviancies - right up there with clinical narcissism, scat fetish, necrophilia and so on.
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endo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornfed wrote:
Even if the whole point of marriage wasn't to allow predatory women to bully, abuse and rob men, the whole idea would still seem bizarre to me. The very idea of wanting to have sex with the same old, fat, ugly women over and over again for years (if you can get it up and she lets you) has surely got to rank as one of the most peculiar sexual deviancies - right up there with clinical narcissism, scat fetish, necrophilia and so on.


Laughing
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick Romero reporting...
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Big_Bird



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The same can be said for women, too. They are the sex most likely to iniate a divorce.

It's also long been known that married women don't live as long as single women. Interestingly, married men live longer than single men.

Everyone should be careful who they marry.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good hooker is better than a bad marriage. How about a whole Harem of possible partners. How about a week in Pattaya beach
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bogey666



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Bird wrote:
The same can be said for women, too. They are the sex most likely to iniate a divorce.

It's also long been known that married women don't live as long as single women. Interestingly, married men live longer than single men.

Everyone should be careful who they marry.


true.. and good advice.

yet how many people marry because they really WANT to?

and how many marry because "it's time.... my parents want me to.. all my friends are married.. my biological clock is running out.. etc etc

I can understand the women a bit, since they DO have biological clock issues as well as the cultural idea/education of being a woman meaning married with kids

but I'd say about 75% or more of people that marry, have NO BUSINESS marrying.

(and that's leaving aside the modern bullshit being propagated about union for life.. absolute monogamy, etc etc)
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Omkara



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm losing touch with my own culture. Anyone know what the average age of men marrying is now?

I never felt any real pressure to marry at home. Here, on the other hand, there is much more social pressure.

I do enjoy this man's thoughts on the subject:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=5ocbZhRQS9I
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CabbageTownRoyals



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been bugging me all day because this article keeps popping up everywhere.....

EVERYONE would prefer to be single over a bad marriage
Shocked Shocked Shocked

(i'm female)

just seems like a ridiculous title.
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bogey666



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CabbageTownRoyals wrote:
This has been bugging me all day because this article keeps popping up everywhere.....

EVERYONE would prefer to be single over a bad marriage
Shocked Shocked Shocked

(i'm female)

just seems like a ridiculous title.


maybe not "everyone", but the percentage would have to be very high.

are you saying it'd be preferable to be with a miserable person or a person who makes you miserable over being single?
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KirbyMagnus



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a slight tangent, I believe more people are marrying later in life because it takes people until their mid to late 30's to be mature enough to be in a marriage.

I think by the age of around 35 we have more realistic expectations of what we want and what another person could offer.

I think there is only one fundamental requirement for a life partner. Someone who does not wreck your head. I think as we get older what we really want is someone we can have the odd good conversation with and for the rest of the time they shut the hell up. Silence doesn't have to be a sign of awkwardness or "issues in the relationship", it can just be the sign of two people who are totally comfortable in each others company.

Sorry if I seem negative today. Korean woman are lovely but my god they are hard work.
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bogey666



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KirbyMagnus wrote:
On a slight tangent, I believe more people are marrying later in life because it takes people until their mid to late 30's to be mature enough to be in a marriage.

I think by the age of around 35 we have more realistic expectations of what we want and what another person could offer.

I think there is only one fundamental requirement for a life partner. Someone who does not wreck your head. I think as we get older what we really want is someone we can have the odd good conversation with and for the rest of the time they shut the hell up. Silence doesn't have to be a sign of awkwardness or "issues in the relationship", it can just be the sign of two people who are totally comfortable in each others company.

Sorry if I seem negative today. Korean woman are lovely but my god they are hard work.


good luck with that one. I can't think of too many women for whom silence is often golden.

and re life partner.
Only reason to have one is if you want children.
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