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American Soldiers in Korea and on the beer
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:38 pm    Post subject: American Soldiers in Korea and on the beer Reply with quote

Far be it for me to tar all these guy's with the same brush (I've met a few cool one's in Itaewon on the sauce), but a high proportion of them seem to be knuckle draggers. I've seen them get rowdy in Seoul before but it never really bothered me until Me and my mates had a nasty Incident with one of them in Daejeon this past weekend. (Lord knows what they were doing down here, probably kicked out of every bar in Seoul)

So anyway, having a good old game of pool with my mates when this overgrown baby looking type with muscles and hip hop clothes (he was white) came over demanding use of the pool table. We said cool man you can play the winner. He didnt like this anyway, and went away muttering something under his breath. One of my friends decides to use the toilet, when a few minutes later we saw in hallway of the bar, the soldier had him on the ground choking him. Luckily my other mate is pretty good at diffusing situations like this so when we dragged him off he somehow managed to talk him into leaving the bar with his similarly simian looking friends.

Later two of my female friends were telling me that the same guy was perving on them, taking pictures of them and telling them 'cmon honeys give each other a kiss'. He also tried to follow one of them to the toilet.

Some of these idiots should be on lockdown in their camps when they're not 'saving' Korea from commies.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the rare person indeed whose character is improved by alcohol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Vino Veritas, In wine there is truth. If you're a pervy rapist in waiting/ violent A hole sober, you're more likely to be so when you're drunk.
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endo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It's the rare person indeed whose character is improved by alcohol.



I disagree. I know a few people who are much more tolerable while drunk. Or perhaps it's because I'm drunk too and can better tolerate them Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Those drunk American GIs should behaving more like the oh-so civilzed drunk English teachers.
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ytuque



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you imagine living in a military barracks with guys like that? That's what I did for 4 years, and it wasn't pleasant.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie wrote:
Yes. Those drunk American GIs should behaving more like the oh-so civilzed drunk English teachers.


granted, I've only been here 4 months, but I've never seen and English teacher behaving like such a grade A pervert or choking someone. But i have seen several such incedents of such Incedents from G.I's. English teachers being drunk messes yes, but nothing like that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to say that the majority of GIs I've seen on the turps here are tame. Much worse behaviour from English teachers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can you imagine living in a military barracks with guys like that?


Try 6 years and yes, it is not pleasant.
I'd prefer to hang out with a few teachers any day than a gang of grunts.....

But then again, it depends on their GT score- the higher the GT score, the better the job and in some rare cases, the more civilized the person is........
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
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Can you imagine living in a military barracks with guys like that?


Try 6 years and yes, it is not pleasant.
I'd prefer to hang out with a few teachers any day than a gang of grunts.....

But then again, it depends on their GT score- the higher the GT score, the better the job and in some rare cases, the more civilized the person is........


Eight years for me, and yes, living in the barracks can be challenging, but life like that can be enjoyable as well.

What was your GT score and MOS, by the way?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirty_scraps83 wrote:
I'd have to say that the majority of GIs I've seen on the turps here are tame. Much worse behaviour from English teachers.


Do tell. Seriously, tell us a story.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's the rare person indeed whose character is improved by alcohol.


I am improved, I suddenly become a really good dancer/singer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a matter of Interest, when one signs up for the American Army, how is it decided where you get posted? e.g Iraq/Korea/Afghanistan/Germany or whatever. Are you posted randomly, or is it determined by your proficiency at certain things? Or indeed can you request where you get shipped off to?

Excuse my ignorance, I'm not from America, or a country with a military tradition for that matter!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only speak for the Army and no other branches, though I assume it works similarly in all branches.

Generally, a soldier is assigned a duty station according to the needs of the Army. The soldier is allowed to submit a "wish list" of three duty stations, but there are no guarantees. If the soldier has "choice of duty" in his initial contract, then his initial duty station is wherever he chooses, assuming that his MOS (military occupational specialty) is utilized at that post. A couple of years into an enlistment, a soldier usually comes down on orders for PCS (permanent change of station). In order to have any say at all about where he's going, the soldier can request a specific duty station and hope that his MOS is needed there.

Retention of soldiers being the problem that it is, near the end of an enlistment, the soldier may come down on orders that require him to extend his enlistment or reenlist. For instance, six months before I was due to ETS (estimated termination of service), I came down on orders to (who knew?) Korea. Korea is a thirteen-month hardship tour, and I already had eight years in service. I declined the orders and was barred from reenlistment. This didn't matter to me, as I was separating from service anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THEN: GT Score- 117 MOS: 31L2I (MOS was phased into what was 31U- series).......lucky for me...yay!!!
NOW: GT Score- 120 MOS: 27E2


Almost the same GT score, but a whole lot better job Wink


Yes, a soldier is assigned based on the needs and wants of PERSCOM and HQDA, but before, Korea was considered one of the less desirable places to be assigned because it was a unaccompanied tour. Many men signed a statement that exempted them from going to Korea, but at the same time, it also ended their careers. A married pregnant woman was more lucky- she would be exempt from going to Korea until after the baby was born + 6 months. However, I think all that has changed since the war in Iraq and now the only country where American troops are considered non-deployable (so far) is EUSA-USFK. So now I suspect there is a waiting list for people to come over.
USFK used to give incentives to soldiers who stay, like 30 days leave with a round-trip ticket, a chance to have command sponsorship and even additional money in their monthly paychecks. I would think they did away with that because Korea is now becoming more 'desirable'.......so to speak......
When I was at Fort Huachuca (back in the day....), I only had to be on-assignment there for 10 months before I can put in a request to PERSCOM (back then, soldiers could call to find out their next duty station and in the case of Korea, put in to be assigned there) to be sent back to Korea and 60 days after I put my request in, there I was, on a plane back to the "land of the morning calm........."
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