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dirty_scraps83
Joined: 02 Jul 2007
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
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| I'd have to say that the majority of GIs I've seen on the turps here are tame. Much worse behaviour from English teachers. |
Do tell. Seriously, tell us a story. |
I've seen drunk GIs, but before anything too bad happens they're usually shuffling their way back to base on curfew. I haven't seen one violent incident involving a GI and I used to spend my fair share of time in the 'won. A lot of them swagger and shout when they're drunk but I've rarely seen one walking around with the kill-twinkle in his eye.
About the worst thing I've seen here was an altercation at the Wolfhound. Between one English teacher and a Middle Eastern looking guy. I was having a beer with a few friends upstairs near the pool table there. When this tall blondey walks up and starts shouting at this guy at the pool table, followed closely by a dude who picks up a pool ball off the table and proceeds to beat the pool guy about the head and face with pool ball enclosed in his fist. the fight then went around the bar including the guy getting punched and kicked into the guy's bathroom, brought out and then stomped and kicked by the pool ball guy and his buddies until some of his other friends called time and the dudes bounced real quick. I was like "WTF?" |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| I am improved, I suddenly become a really good dancer/singer. |
 Keep in mind that you are drunk at the time you make that assessment and everyone knows that drunk people make really bad judgements. After all, how many of us would even be living it weren't for the backseats of cars parked outside bars? |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| It's the rare person indeed whose character is improved by alcohol. |
I disagree. I know a few people who are much more tolerable while drunk. Or perhaps it's because I'm drunk too and can better tolerate them  |
I am usually less violent as I get drunk. I have even been known to hug people. Only girls but still... |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen drunk GIs, but before anything too bad happens they're usually shuffling their way back to base on curfew. I haven't seen one violent incident involving a GI and I used to spend my fair share of time in the 'won. A lot of them swagger and shout when they're drunk but I've rarely seen one walking around with the kill-twinkle in his eye.
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How long have you been in Korea?
Obviously you went to Korea after 9/11.
I remember going out on the weekend September 7-9th, 2001. Even during that time, ITW was a continuous 24/7 all-out free for all.
On the night of September 7th, I went to the King Club (back then it was a good mixture of soldiers, teachers, 3D workers, what-have-you.....) and between 11pm and 3am, I saw 3 fights that broke out back-to-back between several groups of soldiers (the two in the last fight even busted up several tables there).......
However, the following weekend, Itaewon became an instant ghost town with all soldiers on lock down........but I have to admit it was abeit peaceful.......then there was a brief period between 9/11 and the beginning of the Iraq War when things looked like they would go back to normal, only that Itaewon seemed to permanently changed with the Korea-wide 12am to 5am curfew.........thats probably why you saw them all the way in Daejon..........
........................my advice, next time you see a group of soldiers acting wild and are about to get unruly, threaten to call the MPs and if they are out past 12am on the weekday (1am on the weekend), kindly let them know they are breaking curfew and that you were going to report them......that will easily get them back into line....................know your rights 
If you don't know the number, just call the USFK switchboard at 02-7913-1110 and get the number to the MP station nearest you........... |
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nolegirl
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| Keep in mind that you are drunk at the time you make that assessment and everyone knows that drunk people make really bad judgements. After all, how many of us would even be living it weren't for the backseats of cars parked outside bars? |
I think I look like this dancing
But I probably look like this, of course my a$$ is not as fat! hehe, he has a boner 
Then theres this:
The incident Brendon is referring to is the Shinchon Stabbing Incident. In May of 2004 4 GI’s and a KATUSA went and partied in the Shinchon area of Seoul. Apparently one of the soldiers stood on the back of a taxi to take a picture. Some “concerned citizens” exchanged some heated words with the soldiers about standing on the taxi to take a picture. I believe it is safe to assume that the Korean students who were the �concerned citizens� were probably equally drunk at the time considering it was 2AM in Shinchon.
Anyway a fight broke out which according to the court transcripts the �concerned citizens� started, but after the fight broke out more Koreans jumped in on a chance to pound on the soldiers. One of the soldiers who had just arrived at the scene because he was meeting his friends and hadn�t even been drinking yet, pulled out a pocket knife in an effort to defend himself and his friends from the �concerned citizens� who were throwing bricks at him and even assaulting him with a broken beer bottle. As the soldier was assaulted by the mob the knife cut the throat of one of the attackers that was choking him for up to two minutes. This pocket knife would later go on to be described in the Korean media as a military issue knife conjuring up images of some Rambo blade when in fact it was a simple pocket knife. The soldiers were eventually subdued by the mob and arrested by the police department not before they were able to take one of the soldiers and pose him for a propaganda picture:
This soldier fit the rogue GI profile the best, so he was taken by the mob and had his shirt ripped off to expose his tattoos that are often associated with gangsters in Korea and then had his pants pulled down in order to get this great picture to beam around Korea in order to build righteous outrage against the soldiers. Kim Jong-il�s ministry of propaganda couldn�t have done a better job than this. What is even more outrageous about this picture is that this soldier is not even the stabber. The guy who pulled the knife was to busy getting the crap kicked out of him and strangled by all the �concerned citizens�:
I had predicted at the time nothing would happen to the students and the soldier would get slammed and nobody would care and that is unfortunately what happened. The soldier in question, Pvt. John C. Humphrey was convicted of attempted homicide and was given a 2 1/2 year sentence in Korean prison. The only reason he was charged with attempted homicide was because of the anti-US groups lobbying the Korean justice system. What I found most outrageous about this case is that not one Korean in the mob that was fighting the soldiers was charged with anything. In fact they were treated as heroes.
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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In all fairness, the soldiers at the wrong place at the wrong time doing the wrong thing when the wrong people got involved and they reacted the wrong way causing the wrong result to occur........
Again, subtleness and humility go a long way in the world. Doing something that makes you stick out could cause negative effects to you and to those in your community.........
I am so sorry, I have no sympathy for people who don't know better and act like fools.......especially soldiers......................... |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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........................my advice, next time you see a group of soldiers acting wild and are about to get unruly, threaten to call the MPs and if they are out past 12am on the weekday (1am on the weekend), kindly let them know they are breaking curfew and that you were going to report them......that will easily get them back into line....................know your rights
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Would this be before or AFTER they kick your head in for sticking your nose into their business? |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| Would this be before or AFTER they kick your head in? |
I would say before to avoid the hurt.............
I was travelling around the country and I once landed in Jinhae and there were some GIs at the bar that I decided to go and they were bothering some barmaids there. Well....I took it upon myself to let them know that its not cool to grope women that way (basically, I was trying to stop them before the ROKMCs that were there got involved).....
This is how it transpired:
me: I don't think that's a good idea. Do you think their boyfriends or husbands might be around?
Asshole1: Who the fuck are you?
Asshole2: Yeah, shithead, stay outuvit!
me: Nice!.......Wait a minute?.......It's 2am, should you guys be back onbase?
Asshole2: What makes you think we are soldiers?
(Duhh.....the haircut)
me: You might be right. But in any case, do you mind of I call the MPs up at Camp ------- and have them sort this out?
That was when they walked out of the bar, swearing of course and looking like idiots. The ROK Marines came over and bought me a few drinks
I think the US military will lose alot of its prestige because of the wars. Being an Amateur history buff, the one thing I have noticed is that the US has not been able to single handedly win any wars since WWII. They fought 'til there was a stalemate in Korea, they lost the war in Vietnam, Granada and Panama, I think, were really too small to consider 'real conflicts', the first Gulf War was an international effort and the US was held back from going to Baghdad by Saudi concerns of secular strife at the time and possible involvement later by Iran. And the US has been involved in Iraq and Afghanistan now for about 7 years- draining internal resources in the US and completely destroying America's image abroad........all that and suffering a humiliating defeat.
Sure the US has money to fight the war, but it is coming at the expense of properly training them, buying and maintaining equipment, procuring new equipment and paying for social and medical programs for servicemembers and their families.....all this above the national cost for the war............................ |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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I once met this GI one new years in Itaewon. He was an alright guy even though he was only hanging out with me so the MPs rounding people up after curfew would give him a miss. I told him I was Canadian so he tried to talk hockey. It was quaint.
The only other GI I knew tried to pick up every female friend of mine and was generally despicable.
I'd say hit and miss like any other social group. |
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