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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Problem w/ GEPIK Orientation... |
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I was just informed that the orientation for GEPIK teachers will be the first week of July (the last day will be Friday, the 4th). I have two problems with this:
1. If I take a week to go to this orientation, I will not finish my after-school classes before summer vacation. When I asked if I will get paid for those classes, I was told "I can't give you a straight answer right now."
2. I'm nearly in my 14th month at the same school. Because of scheduling I arrived just after last year's orientation. So in this case I feel that staying at the school and teaching my classes is much more beneficial to me than being told Korean food is hot and that I should try to work together with my coteachers.
Is there any way I can get out of going? What would happen if I took my sick days that week (on paper) and showed up to work? Should I call Dain Bae and talk to her about it, or would it be better to remain under the radar?
I'd really like some advice from people who have more than a couple of years' experience in Korea.
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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You can re-schedule your after school classes. And, then call in sick for the orientation. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm going to that orientation too. That exact week is going to be an exam week at my school, which would've meant that I had the week off. Instead, this conference conveniently appears and cancels my entire vacation. Rats. |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Location: Pocheon
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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No body has told me anything.
As usual.
Where is it? How long is it? |
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maingman
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Location: left Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: . |
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Easter Clark
nearly in my 14 month in my THIRD school
as my Primary Teacher used to say... keep smiling  |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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After being here (in GEPIK) and at your school for MORE THAN 1 year - your attendance is NOT required (unless your school wants to send you).
If they choose to send you then you are going.
If you don't want to go, tell your co-teacher that you don't want to go.
IF you do go, network and enjoy yourself but don't play with fire extinguishers.
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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marlow wrote: |
And, then call in sick for the orientation. |
So what recourse can they take if I do this?
ttompatz--
If I call Dain Bae and tell her that I've been here more than a year (she should know this!), will she tell me I'm not required to go?
It's scheduled June 30-July 4, btw (also the week of exams for us).... |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Easter Clark wrote: |
marlow wrote: |
And, then call in sick for the orientation. |
So what recourse can they take if I do this?
ttompatz--
If I call Dain Bae and tell her that I've been here more than a year (she should know this!), will she tell me I'm not required to go? |
It's not her choice or yours.
The Principal (or possibly the district supervisor) makes the decision and if he says go, then pack your backpack for a short holiday.
Usually the principal makes the choice but with the new "English excellence" drive he may be told to send you even if he decided you didn't need to go.
Let your feelings be known to your co-teacher and just wait.
Maybe you get sent, maybe you don't.
Just like camps, it is part of the job and out of your hands - just go with the flow. It's not worth picking a fight over.
If you put the chip on your shoulder you will get nothing from it. Take the chip off and get the most you can from it. Like any other orientation/conference it is only as good as the participants.
Use it for what it's worth. Treat it like an opportunity for professional development. Network with others, there will be others there who have experience here. Share ideas - newbies can learn from you and you can learn from others who have some time in already.
One other difference this year as compared to years past is that the elementary and MS/HS orientations should not be together so the stuff you get should be more focused as well.
When it is done, send your WRITTEN comments and thoughts to GEPIK or post them on the GEPIK website. Improvements can only occur when there is feedback and those with a year or two here can make a difference.
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
After being here (in GEPIK) and at your school for MORE THAN 1 year - your attendance is NOT required (unless your school wants to send you).
If they choose to send you then you are going.
If you don't want to go, tell your co-teacher that you don't want to go.
IF you do go, network and enjoy yourself but don't play with fire extinguishers.
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It's mandatory for me to go, and I want to go. I just hate how it falls on a week I could've had off due to exams.
Can anyone give me some information about it? What does it consist of? Do I really have to sleep in a dorm room with some random person?
Are the lectures generally useful? I've only been at the public school game a week so anything is beneficial to me. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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IncognitoHFX wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
After being here (in GEPIK) and at your school for MORE THAN 1 year - your attendance is NOT required (unless your school wants to send you).
If they choose to send you then you are going.
If you don't want to go, tell your co-teacher that you don't want to go.
IF you do go, network and enjoy yourself but don't play with fire extinguishers.
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It's mandatory for me to go, and I want to go. I just hate how it falls on a week I could've had off due to exams.
Can anyone give me some information about it? What does it consist of? Do I really have to sleep in a dorm room with some random person?
Are the lectures generally useful? I've only been at the public school game a week so anything is beneficial to me. |
Download and have a look at the orientation books from years past and you will have some idea:
http://cge2.ken.go.kr/r/bbs/board.php?bbs_code=f_orientation |
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tselem
Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
Just like camps, it is part of the job and out of your hands - just go with the flow. It's not worth picking a fight over. If you put the chip on your shoulder you will get nothing from it. Take the chip off and get the most you can from it. |
Abstracted from this particular context, this is the most sound advice which can be provided to teachers. Koreans flow in a rather fluid and constantly changing manner. This runs directly against my structured (and logical) personality. Though, as I have learned to become more flexible and go with the flow, my life has become much less stressful. I have learned much of what I used to complain and whine about was really quite petty. It was that simply did not line up with my expectations.
That said, I am still looking for a way to skip orientation. It's rather silly for me to attend. I'll be leaving about three weeks after its completion, and won't be returning. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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ttompatz wrote: |
IncognitoHFX wrote: |
ttompatz wrote: |
After being here (in GEPIK) and at your school for MORE THAN 1 year - your attendance is NOT required (unless your school wants to send you).
If they choose to send you then you are going.
If you don't want to go, tell your co-teacher that you don't want to go.
IF you do go, network and enjoy yourself but don't play with fire extinguishers.
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It's mandatory for me to go, and I want to go. I just hate how it falls on a week I could've had off due to exams.
Can anyone give me some information about it? What does it consist of? Do I really have to sleep in a dorm room with some random person?
Are the lectures generally useful? I've only been at the public school game a week so anything is beneficial to me. |
Download and have a look at the orientation books from years past and you will have some idea:
http://cge2.ken.go.kr/r/bbs/board.php?bbs_code=f_orientation |
Great.
One last question, do I have to be a suit and tie deuschebag or can I be a regular deuschebag? |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:24 pm Post subject: GEPIK Orientation |
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I was at my PS in my third contract before I was told I had to attend the orientation. While the rumors and circulating information varies from time to time, my co-teacher told me at the time that GEPIK is beginning to make the orientations mandatory. What this means is between you and your school to decide. For me as a professional educator coming in with more than 20 years of teaching experience, I have to say little was of significant importance. NOT that I didn't learn a few things, BUT the whole experience is more for accountability on the part of GEPIK than it is to be viewed as a "training orientation." (IMO). I went and spent 4 days and three nights among some good, and not so good participants. Sure the regular party time characters will show up and get in trouble as they regularly do, but it can be fun in some ways.
The orientations are beginning to be scheduled on the regular exam days and other convenient times when it costs the school little in terms of losing your time in the classroom. You usually spend the three nights in a room of strangers that may or may not have their own schedule of events for the orientation, and most likely there will be some infraction of "the rules" that causes Dain Bae or Wenise Kim to get up and give a speech.
You can have fun and I can tell you some good and bad, but in the end you have to decide how good or bad the experience is for yourself. Too bad it is scheduled so people lose time off or free time at work.
It is casual for most people, but some people come in business casual or dress up depending on their particular style choice. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I got asked today and said "No thanks". And that was that. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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1. If I take a week to go to this orientation, I will not finish my after-school classes before summer vacation. When I asked if I will get paid for those classes, I was told "I can't give you a straight answer right now."
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A common problem with GEPIK teachers I know. |
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