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aboxofchocolates

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: on your mind
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: Anyone come out of this OK? |
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| I have been here for a year and I have yet to hear of one single person working at a hagwon who has not been lied to, had contracts broken, been fired shortly before their end of work term, had pay withheld for unknown reasons, had big and small sums of money stolen from them, worked without pay, not given medical and pension, threatened when they refused to resign, etc. Not one single, solitary person has told me they finished with no problems. Are all the lucky ones in Thailand now, sipping margaritas on the beach living like kings on their earnings? Is their one person with a good story? |
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Tarkaan
Joined: 09 Mar 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| The guy I replaced loved it here. The only thing I've gone into my pocket for was $1 for a deck of cards so the students could show me how to play "One Card". |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007 Location: HBC
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Absolutely no problems at all with my last two hagwons. I'm at a privately owned public school now, and even with all the vacations I get now I miss my last hagwon. That was a happy time for me. |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| All good here. |
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cazzy3

Joined: 07 May 2008 Location: kangwon-do
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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i'm a little curious. what is a privately owned public school?
hagwons are generally hit/miss. the one i worked at 5 years ago treated me fairly, but when he had a female teacher, he often tried to manipulate the wording in the contract. there are some good ones out there, but they're hard to find. |
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westport
Joined: 04 Apr 2008 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| My hakwon's been fine with me. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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a privately owned public school?
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It's a little awkwardly named, but that is what they are. A company or a family sets up a private middle school and/or high school and run it more or less like a regular public school. From what I understand, the faculty did not pass the provincial teachers test and take these jobs. (It may be more complicated than that, but that's what I understood when I worked at one.)
In one of the small towns I worked in, the boys high school was public and the girls high school was private. |
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Zaria32
Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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The OP has been doing some very selective reading.
Almost every time someone posts a "don't ever work at a hogwon" sort of thing, many of us pop up to say that we've not been lied to, cheated, etc, and in fact have had very good hogwon experiences. I've worked at two very different hogwons, and both have been terrific experiences. Both of my bosses have been honest and honorable. |
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IncognitoHFX

Joined: 06 May 2007 Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I had a good hagwon and a good boss. The student's behaviour was terrible, but aside from that I had no problems. I even got paid my full bonus plus salary when the school shut down a month before my contract ended! |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| A public private school is actually also called a hakwon. It's a school that operates the same as a regular public school in almost every way. One exception is that they are privately owned. The school I work for is in a family/company of five schools. The teachers also aren't required to move on after 5 or so years as they are in a regular public school. This is both a good and a bad thing. I don't know of any other differences. As a foreigner teacher, I don't the difference affects us....but then again, I haven't worked in a regular public school. |
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articulate_ink

Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I didn't enjoy working at my hagwon during my first year in Korea but they did handle the financial and contractual matters honestly. |
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aboxofchocolates

Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Location: on your mind
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: |
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The OP has been doing some very selective reading.
Almost every time someone posts a "don't ever work at a hogwon" sort of thing, many of us pop up to say that we've not been lied to, cheated, etc, and in fact have had very good hogwon experiences. I've worked at two very different hogwons, and both have been terrific experiences. Both of my bosses have been honest and honorable. |
I'm refering to people I've talked to, not posts I've read on dave's. This is a "place to vent" after all.
As far as selective reading goes, I have yet to read anyone posting about their positive experience at a hagwon. Do you suppose I have been dodging all threads titled "so far so good" or "all copastetic" or what have you? No, they just generally don't come up. I imagine when you work for your money and get compensated as per your agreement it just does not occur to you their is any reason to proclaim it to the rest of the world. So, I thought I'd start a thread and ask about it. And here it is, several hours later and a bunch of posts with people saying good things about their previous jobs. That's just super!
Here's a question: legally there cannot be a blacklist of Hagwons, but is their a greenlist? |
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DongtanTony
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Bundang
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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http://www.geocities.com/hagwonblacklist/
That's the blacklist.
There is actually a green list of sorts....someone else may be able to help.
There was a thread maybe a week or two ago.....something about rating hagwons....I checked it out once...there weren't that many hagwons listed...but generally good feedback.
Can anyone help?? What's the site I'm thinking of???
And.....yes OP, I'm at a good school too....and was last year as well. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| 10 years working at Hagwons and only been paid late one time (one day late). No complaints. |
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Ebes

Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Location: NS
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:57 am Post subject: |
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@ the OP
THANK YOU
this site sorely needs some love, and is especially daunting for newbs. Its noce that all the resources you need are here, and a community to hashi thing out with, but sometimes, the negativity of a public forum can feel like drowning. |
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