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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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 Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: Al-Qaida: We bombed embassy over cartoons |
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Al-Qaida claims it attacked Denmark Embassy
Group says blast that killed 6 in Pakistan was over Muhammad cartoons
updated 11:29 p.m. ET June 4, 2008
CAIRO, Egypt - A Web posting late Wednesday purportedly by al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the suicide attack against Denmark's Embassy in Pakistan that left six people dead.
The statement said Monday's bombing in Islamabad was carried out to fulfill the promise of terror mastermind Osama bin Laden to exact revenge over the reprinting in Danish papers of a cartoon of Islam's Prophet Muhammad.
The statement, carried on a Web site frequently used by the Islamic militants, said the attack "fulfilled the promise of Sheik Osama Bin Laden, may God protect him, of responding" to the "insulting drawings." |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24976215/
If the US didn't invade Iraq this would have never happened. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Blowing up a car outside of an embassy and killing a handful of muslims out of anger from a cartoon is just lunacy. And the response in parts of the West has been to limit freedom of speech by law and for publications to self censor due to fear. The weapon of violence to enforce sharia works very well. It always has. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Al-Qaida: We bombed embassy over cartoons |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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Al-Qaida claims it attacked Denmark Embassy
Group says blast that killed 6 in Pakistan was over Muhammad cartoons
updated 11:29 p.m. ET June 4, 2008
CAIRO, Egypt - A Web posting late Wednesday purportedly by al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the suicide attack against Denmark's Embassy in Pakistan that left six people dead.
The statement said Monday's bombing in Islamabad was carried out to fulfill the promise of terror mastermind Osama bin Laden to exact revenge over the reprinting in Danish papers of a cartoon of Islam's Prophet Muhammad.
The statement, carried on a Web site frequently used by the Islamic militants, said the attack "fulfilled the promise of Sheik Osama Bin Laden, may God protect him, of responding" to the "insulting drawings." |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24976215/
If the US didn't invade Iraq this would have never happened. |
Joo, you finally said something that is true. If the US had stayed out of Iraq and out of the mideast, the Danish cartoons wouldn't be an issue and the radicals wouldn't have the support in money and manpower to undertake their terrorist acts.
But, of course, you think this is part of adding the land of pastry, free love, drug tolerance, naked co-ed saunas, free love and smelly cheese and free love to the caliphate.
The only Cali phat you'll ever see is from eating too many doughnuts in LA. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| Then why did 70,000 train in al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan during the 1990s? |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Al-Qaida: We bombed embassy over cartoons |
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Al-Qaida claims it attacked Denmark Embassy
Group says blast that killed 6 in Pakistan was over Muhammad cartoons
updated 11:29 p.m. ET June 4, 2008
CAIRO, Egypt - A Web posting late Wednesday purportedly by al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the suicide attack against Denmark's Embassy in Pakistan that left six people dead.
The statement said Monday's bombing in Islamabad was carried out to fulfill the promise of terror mastermind Osama bin Laden to exact revenge over the reprinting in Danish papers of a cartoon of Islam's Prophet Muhammad.
The statement, carried on a Web site frequently used by the Islamic militants, said the attack "fulfilled the promise of Sheik Osama Bin Laden, may God protect him, of responding" to the "insulting drawings." |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24976215/
If the US didn't invade Iraq this would have never happened. |
Joo, you finally said something that is true. If the US had stayed out of Iraq and out of the mideast, the Danish cartoons wouldn't be an issue and the radicals wouldn't have the support in money and manpower to undertake their terrorist acts.
But, of course, you think this is part of adding the land of pastry, free love, drug tolerance, naked co-ed saunas, free love and smelly cheese and free love to the caliphate.
The only cali phat you'll ever see is from eating too many doughnuts in LA. |
Taking life to defend islam is hardly new. Nor was islamic terrorism the result of Iraq. The war didn't help, but don't be naive. islam in Europe would be a problem with or without the Iraq war.
The Battle of Vienna was about the Iraq war? |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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The US presence in the Mid East and especially US intervention is what has radicalized hundreds of thousands of Moslems. If the Danish cartoons had been published at all, they would have aroused only mild consternation among a few hard liners had it not been for the US involvement.
The US, of course, sponsored, equiped and funded the Afgan training camps, so the US helped create the troops and then created the hatred.
It would be like going into a large African American section of a major US city, training and arming the population and then returning wearing a sign and shouting "I hate N... " (old movies die hard).
I knew a lot of moslem, Koran thumpers, in my University and in my time at the UN, including some really good friends and some roommates. They were much more interested in thumping blondes than fighting, but many later became radicallized by the US policy of intervention. None of these individuals had any interest in the Caliphate. Most were quite nationalistic and rejected such pan-arab alliances. Two that I know of intended to become fighters post radicalliztion and still only one of them began spouting Caliphate propaganda. Even he used it more as a verbal terror threat and not as a serious goal. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: |
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The US presence in the Mid East and especially US intervention is what has radicalized hundreds of thousands of Moslems. If the Danish cartoons had been published at all, they would have aroused only mild consternation among a few hard liners had it not been for the US involvement.
The US, of course, sponsored, equiped and funded the Afgan training camps, so the US helped create the troops and then created the hatred.
It would be like going into a large African American section of a major US city, training and arming the population and then returning wearing a sign and shouting "I hate N... " (old movies die hard).
I knew a lot of moslem, Koran thumpers, in my University and in my time at the UN, including some really good friends and some roommates. They were much more interested in thumping blondes than fighting, but many later became radicallized by the US policy of intervention. None of these individuals had any interest in the Caliphate. Most were quite nationalistic and rejected such pan-arab alliances. Two that I know of intended to become fighters post radicalliztion and still only one of them began spouting Caliphate propaganda. Even he used it more as a verbal terror threat and not as a serious goal. |
How do you know any of what you say this?
The Bali bombing?
Anyway thanks to the US policy of intervention you have a job in Korea.
What do you work for Kim Il Sung University?
Nice to know that you monday morning QB everything. |
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Kimbop
Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The US presence in the Mid East and especially US intervention is what has radicalized hundreds of thousands of Moslems. If the Danish cartoons had been published at all, they would have aroused only mild consternation among a few hard liners had it not been for the US involvement. |
I'm pretty sure the universe had too many muslim radicals pre-9/11. In Palestine, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Sudan, and Europe. Do ya think, if the US had never invaded iraq, that the Beslan massacre wouldn't have happened? Or millions of non-muslims wouldn't have died in Sudan? Or that sirhan sirhan wouldn't have been so angry?
The truth is that pre 9/11, most of us in the west didn't know what islam represented, and didn't care. Perhaps 9/11 and 7/7 radicalized some westerners as well. Who is more sane; a radical jihadist, or a radical supporter of democracy, opportunity, and science? I am a proud supprter of democracy, and I would give my life to defend freedom. Yeah, I saw Braveheart like, 9 times. Anyways call me a radical.
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The US, of course, sponsored, equiped and funded the Afgan training camps, so the US helped create the troops and then created the hatred.
It would be like going into a large African American section of a major US city, training and arming the population and then returning wearing a sign and shouting "I hate N... " (old movies die hard).
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Ummm, actually, no. The afghans should have been thankful that the us helped repel the soviet invaders. Al Queda is mainly opposed to the US's support of Israel and Saudi Arabia. SO when the cia left afghanistan, the mujahidin said "aw, you're leaving? How about giving us some more free weapons or food, for free? You're not gonna take care of us anymore??" |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| The US presence in the Mid East and especially US intervention is what has radicalized hundreds of thousands of Moslems. |
Perhaps. But its even more true that Al Qaeda's success on September 11th mobilized hundreds of thousands radical Muslims.
Radical Islam is not a product of Iraq. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| The US presence in the Mid East and especially US intervention is what has radicalized hundreds of thousands of Moslems. |
Perhaps. But its even more true that Al Qaeda's success on September 11th mobilized hundreds of thousands radical Muslims.
Radical Islam is not a product of Iraq. |
True, but as ontheway has pointed out hundreds of thousands of otherwise non radical Muslims have been created thanks to the invasion and the West's continuous interference in the region over the past century or so. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| blade wrote: |
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| The US presence in the Mid East and especially US intervention is what has radicalized hundreds of thousands of Moslems. |
Perhaps. But its even more true that Al Qaeda's success on September 11th mobilized hundreds of thousands radical Muslims.
Radical Islam is not a product of Iraq. |
True, but as ontheway has pointed out hundreds of thousands of otherwise non radical Muslims have been created thanks to the invasion and the West's continuous interference in the region over the past century or so. |
It is funny that the mideast street never said anything when Saddam Hussein gassed the Kurds or when Assad destroyed the city of Hama. Or when Khomeni's fatwa killed 30,000 in 1988 alone . When Al Qaeda was fighting in Afghanistan in the 1990's what was the religion of the people they were killing? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Nowadays, if you insult Jesus you are cool. If you insult Allah you die. |
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mises
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| Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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| Nowadays, if you insult Jesus you are cool. If you insult Allah you die. |
Or you get charged with a thought crime. |
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